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asshanson 07-19-2010 06:04 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Yep, 95-96 is different than 97+. Of course you could always sell the xfer case with it and problem solved.

Shane@DBPerformance 07-19-2010 06:57 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides (Post 349623)
Make any decisions on the trans brad? I say put it back together, leave it a 5-speed. On the street it'll be way more fun :)
Manual is only more fun on cars that turn. Not sure if Brad does any of that.

santa 07-19-2010 07:42 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 349626)
Want to go auto.

But the only problem is trying to get rid of such an expensive trans that only works with '95-'96. And I know if I wanted it to move I should lower the price but I just couldn't stomach losing that much money on it.

Maybe I'll start looking into clutches that are cheaper than twin discs yet still holding power and letting people shift quickly.
The twin is the only reason why my car even shifts at such high rpm right now. The rebuild on those twins are pretty inexpensive. I've been wanting to switch to a auto in my car too. It will be so much faster!! The cost for a good auto build from someone is pretty expensive, and then buying a billet converter is even more expensive!!

C3L1CA 07-20-2010 10:35 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 349649)
Manual is only more fun on cars that turn. Not sure if Brad does any of that.
hahah I turn, just don't turn very fast! I would LOVE to have a road race car, but drag racing is a lot cheaper and I don't get the whole cone in a parking lot thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by santa (Post 349664)
The twin is the only reason why my car even shifts at such high rpm right now. The rebuild on those twins are pretty inexpensive. I've been wanting to switch to a auto in my car too. It will be so much faster!! The cost for a good auto build from someone is pretty expensive, and then buying a billet converter is even more expensive!!
Maybe I'll call today and see if they can rebuild it for cheap.

I figured the cost of a good auto build is about the same as the cost of a good manual build. Then last time I looked a twin disc was pretty damn close to the cost of a good converter. It all seems like a wash in the end for a quality setup.

Just called Quarter Master, and those guys are the shit! Dude was super cool and said if I send the clutch in they will look it over for free and tell me what all needs to be fixed. Hopefully its cheap and I can get another track pass in before the end of the year!

turbotalon1g 07-20-2010 10:45 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
fingers crossed.

santa 07-20-2010 10:58 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 349730)
hahah I turn, just don't turn very fast! I would LOVE to have a road race car, but drag racing is a lot cheaper and I don't get the whole cone in a parking lot thing.


Maybe I'll call today and see if they can rebuild it for cheap.

I figured the cost of a good auto build is about the same as the cost of a good manual build. Then last time I looked a twin disc was pretty damn close to the cost of a good converter. It all seems like a wash in the end for a quality setup.

Just called Quarter Master, and those guys are the shit! Dude was super cool and said if I send the clutch in they will look it over for free and tell me what all needs to be fixed. Hopefully its cheap and I can get another track pass in before the end of the year!
Yeah, the guys at quartermaster are pretty cool, and not to far away if I remember right! They were just at map a month or so ago and seemed pretty cool! They dropped off a prototype clutch for Kyle's silver evo.

Matt D. 07-20-2010 11:06 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 349730)
I don't get the whole cone in a parking lot thing.
You are welcome to drive my car at an event to try it out. I'll put $20 toward your entry as well.

Upcoming local events:
http://myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmC...?psCLUB_ID=103
http://myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmC...?psCLUB_ID=153

C3L1CA 07-20-2010 11:06 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Yep down in IL. He also said that I should include a picture of the Wife/Gf with the clutch when I send it off. I lol'ed a little bit at that :) I also heard they were working on new disc with a different center section so if those are messed up I might ask about those.

santa 07-20-2010 11:08 AM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 349730)
hahah I turn, just don't turn very fast! I would LOVE to have a road race car, but drag racing is a lot cheaper and I don't get the whole cone in a parking lot thing.


Maybe I'll call today and see if they can rebuild it for cheap.

I figured the cost of a good auto build is about the same as the cost of a good manual build. Then last time I looked a twin disc was pretty damn close to the cost of a good converter. It all seems like a wash in the end for a quality setup.
Last I looked at ipt's site their built top notch auto was ~$3200 and a billet converter was ~$1500?

Pushit2.0 07-20-2010 12:02 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
The tranny should work in all years, the output shaft has the same ratio. It is the rear end and transfer case ratio that you need to match up for the year/car.

GsXtUrBo98 07-20-2010 12:07 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
^so 95-96 have different rear ends? I thought just t cases..

Super Bleeder!! 07-20-2010 12:09 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
A lot of those fast auto guys dont have "built" autos. Just converters and home made shift boxes.

santa 07-20-2010 03:55 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 349744)
A lot of those fast auto guys dont have "built" autos. Just converters and home made shift boxes.
hmmmm link us to thread's? if ther are any??

turbotalon1g 07-20-2010 04:09 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
same here.
The Cdub guys are running fully built IPT trans last time i checked.

goodhart 07-20-2010 04:14 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
How much power can the stock auto's hold?

If they hold a decent amount, why not just rock a stock auto w/ a high stall, upgraded valve body/shift kit, and a big ass tranny cooler?

C3L1CA 07-20-2010 04:20 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
There is a thread on the link forums where everybody lists their auto setups and what not.

4g63tcrazy 07-20-2010 05:52 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Fastest completely stock auto tranny dsm I've seen run is 9.5 and that was with a full line pressure mod and shift box. I can't seem to find the video though..

TheBlizzard 07-21-2010 01:10 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
You need to talk to Kiggly (Kevin?); he is on NABR and I believe he ran at the last years MAP event, he has the 90 Laser that runs low 8's I believe. He is a master at DSM auto trannies and what they can handle and what not. When I used to have my auto I talked to him a bit about them, he said you just need to get stronger end clutches, stiffer springs in the valve body, a torque converter, shift box, and a Good Cooler and you'll be set. The the torque converter is going to be the most expensive I think.

C3L1CA 07-21-2010 01:44 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
I am not nearly cool enough to be on NABR, last time I went there I could look at the duct tape/zip tie thread and that was about it.

We'll see what quarter master says about my clutch and how much it'll be to fix. If everything is fucked I might go auto, I'm far too A.D.D. to even know what will happen to this pile.

Jungy 07-21-2010 03:44 PM
Re: Beater 2g
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 349741)
The tranny should work in all years, the output shaft has the same ratio. It is the rear end and transfer case ratio that you need to match up for the year/car.
All manual 2g's have the same rear end ratios the difference is in the front diff ring gears and t-cases. The 95-96 run a 58 tooth ring gear and the 97-99 run a 57 tooth ring gear. Depending on what tranny you have you hafta get the matching t-case so that both the and rear front wheels are spinning at the same speed and not fighting each other. People have mis-matched t-cases before and burned up the VC in the tranny.


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