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Murlo26 06-09-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
LOL @ the title now :)

You know it Trev :)

turbotalon1g 06-09-2010 05:14 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
SO whats new in the life of dave?

I have not met said dave.

goodhart 06-09-2010 05:56 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344065)
I did two weekends ago...the girl literally told me..."I don't think i a can cum anymore" lol.

Wow, way off topic.


Pics or ban!!!!!


that is all.

Murlo26 06-09-2010 07:39 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well...the insurance info that the guy that rear ended me was bogus...in the sense that his card said he had current insurance but he canceled it right after he got his card.

So now I am probably stuck paying for anything that happened out of pocket...what a worthless system.

Oh, scheides, spoke with Robert at FP, no on the HTA86 wheel black :(

Kracka 06-09-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I take it you didn't call the police?

Murlo26 06-09-2010 08:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I have since called them...they wouldn't do anything...my insurance agent is trying to find the guy to see if we can do anything.

Police basically said you need to take care of this yourself...and i asked even though the guy is illegally driving around without insurance...yes they said.

Kracka 06-09-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Wow that's BS. Cops are so worthless and are willing to take zero initiative. At least in TX if you're caught w/o car insurance your vehicle is towed on the spot.

mlomker 06-09-2010 09:33 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Lesson learned about filing police reports, then? Especially since you were injured...

Saw your motor out of the car. Big holes on both sides of the block.

Murlo26 06-09-2010 09:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
^really? Wish Danny would've called, i would've swung up there. I guess tomorrow i will go.

Yea, lesson learned. I just wanted to get to work so I didn't want to deal with it.

No more trusting people, i will file a police report from now on.

You should've snapped some pics.

mlomker 06-09-2010 09:58 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344158)
You should've snapped some pics.

I thought about it but wasn't sure if you'd been out there already or not. I also wanted to get to Wagners before everyone left.

Danny was working on that nice truck. It was the younger guy working on your car. Not sure of his name?

Murlo26 06-09-2010 09:59 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Fair enough, i will see if i can run up there tomorrow after work...i am working far away tomorrow, Gaylord MN...but i usually go in late and leave early those days, lol.

Murlo26 06-10-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Great news! My luck turned a bit today...the head and turbo are both in great shape...the head is just slightly scuffed on the cylinder that went done but Danny said it isn't a big deal to steel wool and have their machinist clean it up too.

Motor pics...ouch time! (taken from two different cameras, one was the iphone, both don't have a flash, sorry no money for a camera now, lol)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/de799a55.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/888a7c00.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/84a46b55.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/dd19f107.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/bb3a9651.jpg
Other side:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/17ea47c2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/f678cfd8.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/c8e98b23.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/267a17e8.jpg
3rd down, the one scuffed a bit
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/47c753ca.jpg
Two big piston chunks
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0059.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0044.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0045.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0047.jpg
NOthing went through the turbo !
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0055.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0057.jpg

Murlo26 06-10-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Danny said that there were no signs of detonation...fuel was good.

He said it appeared it broke on the way down, which is good and saved my head. He said it looks like the rod basically formed an S and snapped and caused the failure.

Funny, everyone says rod bolts let go on these...that end of the rod is still on there, lol.

scheides 06-10-2010 10:03 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Holy shit! So the rod bolts were fine, and the rod actually just let go? That is nasty carnage; great pics! great news on the head and turbo. Does this change your plans at all?

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 344331)
Holy shit! So the rod bolts were fine, and the rod actually just let go? That is nasty carnage; great pics! great news on the head and turbo. Does this change your plans at all?

Yea, Danny said this just simply looks like the rods let go on the power stroke, basically classic too much power/torque. He said he saw not signs of detonation and yea the bottom half of the rod can still spin on the crank :)

It changes it some yes...my head will be getting DB's machinist's race porting when he is in there for putting the oversized valves in and assembling my head. My head should flow rather well after all is said and done :) Especially with the GSC S2's.

Otherwise the turbo being fine and the being fine are just bonus's. I was planning on the head being bad for sure, which is 1000 for the core roughly, so i will use that money for supplying other parts of the build that i added in like the new turbo.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-10-2010 10:26 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I just took a look at it and it doesn't really look like it was a knock/detonation problem. The 3 other cylinders look mint, there isn't aluminum build up in the combustion chamber of the cylinder that took a shit, all the spark plugs look fine except for the one being covered in oil in the bad cylinder.

Rod bolts usually will usually break/stretch from high RPMs when the pistons pull on them on the up stroke and rods usually bend on the down/compression stroke or on the up stroke when you suck in water/blow a HG and fill the cylinder with coolant.

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 344339)
I just took a look at it and it doesn't really look like it was a knock/detonation problem. The 3 other cylinders look mint, there isn't aluminum build up in the combustion chamber of the cylinder that took a shit, all the spark plugs look fine except for the one being covered in oil in the bad cylinder.

Rod bolts usually will usually break/stretch from high RPMs when the pistons pull on them on the up stroke and rods usually bend on the down/compression stroke or on the up stroke when you suck in water/blow a HG and fill the cylinder with coolant.

So you are thinking just too much torque/power for the stock rods to handle it?

Shane@DBPerformance 06-10-2010 10:30 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Unless it was an oiling problem and it spun a rod bearing and didn't hear it and once the bearing was totally gone the rod stuck to the crank and beat the up the block.

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 344341)
Unless it was an oiling problem and it spun a rod bearing and didn't hear it and once the bearing was totally gone the rod stuck to the crank and beat the up the block.

Would it of been making noise if this happened? Just curious for next time, with my luck this won't be my last motor, lol.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-10-2010 10:35 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It would be making the ever popular rod knock noise.

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:37 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Hmmm, sounds bad...any vids of said noise, i haven't heard that obviously. I am guessing myself or lomker would've heard that if my car was making it.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-10-2010 10:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlZvt...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWwk...eature=related

Or Tom's car.

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I was busy helping scheides with the dyno day when that happened and didn't get to hear it...i'll check out the vids

Murlo26 06-10-2010 10:59 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Yea, i didn't hear anything like that...but it is really hard to hear shit over my exhaust so who knows.

Swifty1638 06-11-2010 12:13 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Alex handed me your piston when I was helping with some other car, and I was like.."is that Dave's?!" wooaa dude. going over your motor today, in a SMALL way, made me feel SORT OF better about mine..it was well enough to race over to BK for lunch..lol.

I know the new build will be better then before.

mlomker 06-11-2010 07:31 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344351)
Yea, i didn't hear anything like that...but it is really hard to hear shit over my exhaust so who knows.

I wouldn't have noticed since I'm not sure what 'normal' is for your car since it was my first time in it. Back when I had that UR fuel filter on my firewall it would make bizarre sounds...the 3port, a different set of injectors, motor mounts..they all make different sounds.

I remember when I first picked up my own car after the initial build and my only thought was 'damn that test pipe is loud'. Now I'm totally use to it.

scheides 06-11-2010 08:58 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 344341)
Unless it was an oiling problem and it spun a rod bearing and didn't hear it and once the bearing was totally gone the rod stuck to the crank and beat the up the block.

Well unbolt the end of the rod that's left on there and see what it looks like, that would solve that mystery pretty quick, unless it was damaged when the rod snapped.

Murlo26 06-11-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Just bought some new Buschur Center Diff pins to upgrade them in the tranny since it is out now anyway.

Murlo26 06-15-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Small update:

The Buschur diff pins should arrive to my house today and I am going to bring them up to DB so they can get my tranny over to their guy and get those put in.

All of the components for my head have been ordered and will probably show up late this week, early next week I am guessing. The Manley springs/retainers are going to Supertech ones, because the GSC S2 cams that I got have too much lift for the Manley ones, the supertechs are only like 100 more or something.

scheides 06-15-2010 12:46 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
wtf, the specs on the S2's aren't insane, how can the manley springs not work? on the 8/9 they're only slightly more aggressive than k272's, which work fine with stock springs. Maybe the dual mivec X cams have some crazy ramp rates or something?

*edit* ya, I see in their catalog it says max lift of .430" = 10.9mm....kinda silly imho. The evo8/9 springs are good for .580" = 14.7mm! How can they make such MANLY springs for the 4G63 and such PUSSY springs for the X?

turbotalon1g 06-15-2010 01:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
hey dave u brought/kno that guy who had g8 gt at the dyno day right?

they made pussy stuff for pussys. lol jk jk

Murlo26 06-15-2010 01:50 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 344930)
wtf, the specs on the S2's aren't insane, how can the manley springs not work? on the 8/9 they're only slightly more aggressive than k272's, which work fine with stock springs. Maybe the dual mivec X cams have some crazy ramp rates or something?

*edit* ya, I see in their catalog it says max lift of .430" = 10.9mm....kinda silly imho. The evo8/9 springs are good for .580" = 14.7mm! How can they make such MANLY springs for the 4G63 and such PUSSY springs for the X?

Yea not sure, the GSC S2's are like .433 or something, so just a bit over the Manley max lift, Danny said we could probably still use them, but since I plan to rev it out he thought it was better to go with the Supertech's which can handle like .49 or something.

But I looked at the 8/9/X S2's and they are all about the same lift and designed for roughly the same rev range and power levels...400-700whp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 344940)
hey dave u brought/kno that guy who had g8 gt at the dyno day right?

they made pussy stuff for pussys. lol jk jk

Yea, he is my buddy...second part, you lost me, lol.

Murlo26 06-17-2010 08:48 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Good bye stock turbo :(
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/84b4e22f.jpg

But here is where it is going...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/12a0b46a.jpg

FP Rebuild Form ;)

Hopefully I will have this the first or second week in July, just in time for the motor to be going back in :)

turbotalon1g 06-18-2010 12:55 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
hahaha, thats funny. Its looks like a kids note to santa.


You know drew O. too? That second part was for scheides about the X springs.

mlomker 06-18-2010 07:28 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 345559)
Hopefully I will have this the first or second week in July, just in time for the motor to be going back in :)

500 or bust.

Murlo26 06-18-2010 07:45 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
^Couldn't of said it better myself ;)

Murlo26 06-18-2010 07:46 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 345595)
hahaha, thats funny. Its looks like a kids note to santa.


You know drew O. too? That second part was for scheides about the X springs.

Robert@FP is just as good as Santa :)

turbotalon1g 06-18-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
^lol, 500 is crazy. I need to get a ride in all these Evos.

Murlo26 06-18-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I will dish out rides when it is all said and done...however, I am graduating my car to only myself driving it simply because I can't afford to fix another motor right now and a misshift at 9k would be deadly. too much to lose.

500whp would be sweet, but i might get stuck in the upper 4's until i finish some other things off that might be restrictions, intake mani, throttle body and I will go to a tubular mani eventually too. Probably winter project...then shoot for 500's next spring. I honestly just want the damn thing to work, lol.

Murlo26 06-21-2010 10:08 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
My new "1400cc" DW injectors will be here tomorrow, my head is off to DB's machinist for his raceport job and +1mm valve installation with my new GSC s2 cams and supertech springs/retainers. The buschur diff pins and my tranny went to DB's tranny guy for installation and while he has it all apart if anything looks worn he is going to replace.

My stock turbo will be at FP Wednesday, so hopefully 2 weeks or so and he will ship it back. The Shortblock is due in port the end of this week or early next week, so hopefully end of next week or early the following week that will be at DB. Hopefully everything falls into place and the head/tranny are done before the shortblock gets there and then the FPblack arrives when the motor is going back in.

It seems to be going smoothly...almost too smoothly.

Edit: Also ordered a Thermal intake spacer, was going to do Boomba, but MAP had the same thing for like half the price from them so I just got that one. Also ordered my second piece of bling, aside from my Perrin shorty antenna that was my first mod, a boomba oil cap!


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