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FattyBoomBatty 02-21-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Ahh, yeah, i was going to mention, that thing looks thin, but it probably helps to "aim" the exhaust gasses toward the turbo.

1QUICK4 02-25-2009 01:21 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
They're here!





My girl at Walser Hyundai called me and said she got to drive the 1st one in. A leathered out 6cyl A/T.

It's the only one they got so far but should have more this week.

Kevin 1G Drummer 02-25-2009 07:15 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Nice! What sucks though is that I've been hearing that the 2.0's are gonna be delayed till mid March. How did she like it?

FattyBoomBatty 02-25-2009 08:05 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Gives you time to save for that down payment.

Speedfreak 02-26-2009 12:18 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Dealers across the country have all got V6 Auto's, no 2.0T's yet. No solid info on delivery dates either.

rose0529 02-26-2009 08:06 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
edmunds reviews a V6 Track

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#22

rose0529 02-27-2009 09:04 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Edmunds puts the V6 on a dynojet.....

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...hotopanel..2.*

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...coupe.dyno.jpg

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...mb-555x351.jpg

We've already tested the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but enthusiasts keen on exploring every facet of its performance credentials now have another data point to consider--our chassis dyno result.

Hyundai pegs its brand-spankin' new Genesis Coupe's 3.8-liter V6 at 306-hp and 266 lb-ft of torque. To detemine just how truthful they've been in this rating, we strapped a Genesis to the Dynojet rollers at MD Automotive's facility in Westminster, CA, and let 'er rip.
Click for a larger image. And forgive the little gap in the data at 5300 rpm--our speed pick-up momentarily lost its tach signal.

Overall, this result by the Genesis coupe indicates that the V6 version is generating the full output claimed by Hyundai. Of note in particular is the character of the torque curve--flat's the word.

Remember, don't go comparing results across dyno manufacturers because the planet will tilt off-axis and we'll all freeze to death. Feel free to pontificate how the Genesis compares to the BMW 335i and Infiniti G37 we measured a while back, though--we used the same dyno for all three.

Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor

Kracka 02-27-2009 09:33 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Nonsense! Hyundai must be retarded:

"But we do know that there's a torque-reduction feature on this car that would suck some of the fun out of Conrod Straight. Accelerate hard in 1st gear and then do a hard upshift to 2nd at or just before the marked 6,500-rpm redline. You'll get your upshift, but as the revs drop back, you'll feel an additional, artificial cut in power. It lasts for about 3 seconds.

Hyundai says this is a drivetrain protection measure that's triggered at 6,800 rpm (the engine's true redline). However, the car's tachometer lags behind actual engine rpm, so it takes trial and error to find a shift point that keeps you out of the protection zone. Oddly enough, you don't get any intervention until you actually complete your upshift — you can ride the engine to the rev limiter with impunity.

"There's some talk about minimizing the delay, so that it's maybe just a second, but nothing has been signed off," Miles Johnson, Hyundai communications manager, tells us. "The car is going to market with the 3-second calibration."

Even a 1-second delay compromises acceleration, though. Moreover, the automatic torque reduction makes it difficult to get a smooth gearchange at even two-thirds throttle, as it exacerbates the drivetrain lash already present due to the Genesis coupe's soft engine mounts."

scheides 02-27-2009 10:10 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Ghey. I'm sure a little ecuflash hacking will fix that :)

Kracka 02-27-2009 10:16 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
I hope so; a 3-second lag defeats the purpose of buying a sports car.

Speedfreak 02-27-2009 11:29 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Buying an automatic defeats the purpose of buying a sports car.;)

But like mentioned, I'm sure everything will be hacked once people start getting their hands on the electronics. Then everyone can start busting automatic transmissions.

Kracka 02-27-2009 11:32 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 279118)
Buying an automatic defeats the purpose of buying a sports car.;)

This is on the manual transmissions.

FattyBoomBatty 02-27-2009 12:44 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
"Forgive our graph, we momentarily lost the tach reading"

Give me a break. Do another run to get a good clean graph. What a bunch of pussies.

1QUICK4 02-27-2009 01:30 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 279134)
"Forgive our graph, we momentarily lost the tach reading"

Give me a break. Do another run to get a good clean graph. What a bunch of pussies.

Or at least go into MSpaint and connect the lines

sleepydsm 02-27-2009 01:38 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 279142)
Or at least go into MSpaint and connect the lines

haha :)

Shane@DBPerformance 02-27-2009 01:40 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Especially since that isn't the real dyno sheet anyways.

Speedfreak 02-27-2009 07:40 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 279120)
This is on the manual transmissions.

WTF! I hope an AEM FI/C or EMS will take care of that. It is unacceptable.


Is this only on the V6? Either way, it is a few hundred rpm past the marked "redline", so I guess it isn't that big of an issue until you want to rev it out a bit(build the head). By that time, some sort of solution will be had I'm sure.

Kevin 1G Drummer 02-27-2009 07:47 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
From what I've heard they used an ecu similar to the EvoX, so it shouldn't be too hard to crack and get rid of that stupid torque limiting thing.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-27-2009 09:22 PM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
The Evo X ECU has some very annoying airflow limiting tables. It compares TPS to RPM and if the current airflow isn't close to whats in the airflow tables, then the car goes into limp mode.

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-01-2009 09:06 AM

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 
Motor Trend's review of a 3.8 track

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html


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