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Matt D. 03-25-2010 12:54 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 330854)
Who has one of those? :hide:

I might be better off driving a POS. That way I can pretend it's the car that sucks. haha.

It's up to you, I'll be at the novice school helping out anyway so the offer stands. The car has trophies to prove its capability to go around corners and was the fastest car at the school 2 years ago. :)

Kracka 03-25-2010 09:00 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 330903)
...was the fastest car at the school 2 years ago. :)

Damn you!

mlomker 03-25-2010 12:32 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I suspect any car would be fast with Matt driving it. :D

Kracka 03-25-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 330967)
I suspect any car would be fast with Matt driving it. :D

Yeah Matt's a good driver. I was 2nd at that novice school and I think he had about a second on me (maybe more?). He did have ~10 events (maybe less, I don't remember exactly) under his belt at that point, but my guess is he could have come in fresh and still beat me.

mlomker 03-25-2010 02:26 PM

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I've never been good at any sport. Even if I was, I'm not much into competing with anybody. I quit jui jitsu when it became 'not fun' because you had to beat the next guy in line to get promoted. I'm just not into that.

That's why half the money into my car is just for looks. I've learned a lot about a subject that I didn't know anything about going into it. Who knows what I'll do once this car is done...move on to another hobby, I'd imagine.

Matt D. 03-25-2010 02:29 PM

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Fair enough, competition just doesn't appeal to some people. Regardless, there's no reason to not learn to be a better driver.

Kracka 03-25-2010 02:38 PM

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You need this now too:
http://cosworthusa.com/store/pc/view...&idproduct=702

Only $1300 ;)

Those end-tanks are pure sex. Similar to Perrin and AMS, but a bit more like Nisei tanks which resemble what I've seen on F1 intercoolers. I like how the outlet gently transitions similar to a HKS.

simulatedwood 03-25-2010 02:45 PM

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Auto-x for a novice should be about improving your times from run to run. The fun part of it is not always who got the fastest time but figuring out how to cut time in each element. I learned alot last year on stock everything, Matt and everyone else in the club is awesome at encouraging drivers to get faster. All I can say is ask alot of questions! Have fun, and oh yes you will be addicted. mlomker, id take matt up on the offer, you learn alot about high hp and small spaces at the midway. ;) Id offer up my car but I wont be intown that day.

Shawn

mlomker 03-25-2010 08:06 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 330990)
Those end-tanks are pure sex.

I have a Perrin fmic already. Same deal with the CBRD manifold...he didn't announce it until after I'd already bought the Full Race.

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 330989)
there's no reason to not learn to be a better driver.

That's why I signed up.

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 330993)
Id offer up my car but I wont be intown that day.

I was just wondering how you were doing. I know you have a busy time ahead but I'm still hoping we can do that brake job some time this Summer. It might be the Cookout before the car is totally done but at least the end is in sight.

mlomker 03-26-2010 09:17 AM

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The guy who gave me the great quote on the head didn't reply to my email yesterday so that's a bummer. I shot out quote requests to MAP and Boombop shop. I had bought the cams from Boombop.

I think Shane had found a good quote as well...need to get the details on that.

scheides 03-26-2010 09:51 AM

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Posted this on evomn too, but didn't know which you'd see first:

Lomker, another idea for you? Order a new OEM head. Steal the cam cap off of it, put it on your head, and then order the AMS part (at the same time). Then sell the OEM head w/ AMS cam cap as a whole functioning OEM head (with disclosure about the ams piece, obviously).

If Mitsu has one on the shelf somewhere, this might be a good bang/buck for ya, just will tie up the cash in that head for a short while.

mlomker 03-26-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 331100)
Lomker, another idea for you? Order a new OEM head. Steal the cam cap off of it, put it on your head, and then order the AMS part (at the same time). Then sell the OEM head w/ AMS cam cap as a whole functioning OEM head (with disclosure about the ams piece, obviously).

The cap has to be line bored to the head so that's a no-go. Since the head has to come off anyway, the new one would obviously be put back on it.

Some options would be much less expensive but realistically require 2 months of being without my car (parts availability, machine shop time, and DB is swamped with work). I'm not opposed to spending money on upgrades (if I can afford it) if it'll save the Spring for me.

Murlo26 03-26-2010 10:47 AM

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If you can, I say just do whatever gets the car back to fastest, which looks to be what you are doing.

It's going to be 70 next week, get that shit on the road and enjoy all the money spent:) As if you didn't already know that, lol.

mlomker 03-26-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 331112)
As if you didn't already know that, lol.

Maybe I should take that $6k and buy a used sport bike? Tell DB to park the car until Fall. :beerfunnel2:

mlomker 03-26-2010 12:48 PM

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I spoke to MAP and they'd like the opportunity to do a stage 5 head for an Evo X. They did some milder work on their shop Evo X MR but would like to go all the way and see how it flows. They are going to check on obtaining a core and call me back with a time estimate.

Having the first stage 5 head from MAP could be fun!

Swifty1638 03-26-2010 04:36 PM

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I went out and signed on the dotted line..I get to join the ranks of you guys today! They had blue, red and white on the lot, but I liked the white one the best. Future mods include black wheels, headlights, tails, cf bits here n there, cbrd turbo, perrin fmic, and a stock bov ;)

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4627098_n.jpg

Murlo26 03-26-2010 04:41 PM

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^epic!

mlomker 03-26-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331187)
I went out and signed on the dotted line..I get to join the ranks of you guys today!

So much for the Black 1G mafia. Turncoat!

You have your head yet?

Swifty1638 03-26-2010 05:06 PM

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lol, all is in good fun.

I get the head on sunday, when I go up there, and he welds the flange I got in the mail today to the turbo.

mlomker 03-26-2010 07:17 PM

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I went with a head from MAP. It'll be similar to the Cosworth. +1mm valves, Cossie dual springs, and their porting. They are going to clearance the MX1s so that'll save Shane a little bit of hassle on the reinstall.

Matt D. 03-26-2010 07:22 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331198)
I went with a head from MAP. It'll be similar to the Cosworth. +1mm valves, Cossie dual springs, and their porting. They are going to clearance the MX1s so that'll save Shane a little bit of hassle on the reinstall.

What head are you exactly buying? Are they working over a stock head for you or something?

mlomker 03-26-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 331199)
Are they working over a stock head for you or something?

Yeah, they are ordering a new Mitsu core for me.

mlomker 03-27-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Ran to Dad's and did an oil change on the car that he's loaning me. I think I'll look for a set of hub caps for it.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs505...._3162181_n.jpg

LingLing 03-27-2010 07:37 PM

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I think a a set of black 17" RPF1's are the way to go. :D

What kind of power gains are you expecting to see from the cams and head work?

Matt D. 03-27-2010 07:40 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331270)
I think I'll look for a set of hub caps for it.

Stealies are where it's at.

mlomker 03-27-2010 08:41 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by LingLing (Post 331272)
What kind of power gains are you expecting to see from the cams and head work?

I'm changing a lot of stuff at once so I'll never know what the cams and head work did on their own (excepting the power gains above the stock rev limiter).

The dyno charts that I've seen have only shown modest gains from porting. Just about everything has been PPC now so the cumulative effect should certainly add some power. My main goal with the head is 9k rpms. I know for a fact that rpms will add power as long as the turbo is still breathing...evidence has shown the FP Red is still pulling at 8k so I have no reason to believe that the BBX will be out of breath before 9k.

There are a number of 1sts in this build so some questions won't be answered until Shane straps it down on the dyno.

LingLing 03-27-2010 09:25 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Nice! I'm excited to see what this ends up at. You're gonna be going on the rollers at Boost For Boobies, right?

v8klla 03-29-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
We plan to have the head done around April 15th, that doesn't leave much time for Shane to get the car back together and tuned, but we sure hope to see it at B4B!

scheides 03-29-2010 11:37 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331278)
My main goal with the head is 9k rpms.


Hey if you decide to drag it you'll be able to rev it out in 4th no problemo!

Murlo26 03-29-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 331458)
Hey if you decide to drag it you'll be able to rev it out in 4th no problemo!

Yup, 9k will do that for sure:)

ETS with their setup which is similar to lomkers, different brands and the addition of engine bearings, and they take theirs up to 10k rpms:)

I think he could do 9500 even honestly, but i doubt he will be making power up there, who knows;)

I would do enough to get 4th in the quarter and only go more if it kept making power.

mlomker 03-29-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 331462)
I think he could do 9500 even honestly, but i doubt he will be making power up there, who knows.

We will play it by ear on the dyno. If by some miracle it was still pulling at 9k then we can up it for a pull. The motor really should be good until the springs give out and I'm going with Cosworth dual springs this time...given the price they better be the shiznit.

mlomker 03-29-2010 07:27 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by LingLing (Post 331281)
You're gonna be going on the rollers at Boost For Boobies, right?

No. It'll get run at MAP whenever the build is complete but I'm sure Shane will need a good two weeks once he gets the head. After assembly the motor has to be broken in, then tuned. That's why the setback was unfortunate--there's still quite a bit of work after the cams are in.

--
These builds are endless, aren't they? I need to get rubber and the Volks on, set the ride height/corner balance, alignment, new brake system installed, fix the suction line in the tank, install gauges, install splitter/canards/wing, clean up vacuum lines, do a wire tuck to show off the Primo valve cover, install Ralliart tail lights, and maybe replace the trunk plastic that I scratched the piss out of.

I might even wash the f-ing thing if I can squeeze that in. lol.

Murlo26 03-29-2010 10:47 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
You did brakes too, man you really did everything at once, lol.

Just get the damn thing running and enjoy for a bit first:) You need to love the evo a bit, by driving it that is.

mlomker 03-30-2010 12:08 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 331585)
You did brakes too, man you really did everything at once, lol.

I have pads and stainless lines here...plan to get Girodisc rotors later.

I would expect to burn up the stock setup by the end of the Summer. I want to learn how to do brakes on my own so I'll find someone to work with me on it when the time comes.

Murlo26 03-30-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331599)
I have pads and stainless lines here...plan to get Girodisc rotors later.

I would expect to burn up the stock setup by the end of the Summer. I want to learn how to do brakes on my own so I'll find someone to work with me on it when the time comes.

Yea i want to do brakes too, i am going to get a few more tools, stuff needing for taking my rims off so i can clean the brakes too. I need a nice torque wrench for sure. And then i need some bigger rachets etc.

Let me know when you plan on doing them i want to learn:)

scheides 03-30-2010 01:06 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331270)
Ran to Dad's and did an oil change on the car that he's loaning me. I think I'll look for a set of hub caps for it.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs505...._3162181_n.jpg

Ruh roh! Modding the 'beater' secondary car has started....classic! :D

Murlo26 03-30-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 331606)
Ruh roh! Modding the 'beater' secondary car has started....classic! :D

LOL, that is one thing I am afraid of for when I get my second car.

mlomker 03-30-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 331606)
Ruh roh! Modding the 'beater' secondary car has started....classic!

Dad had a woman back into the car right before I borrowed it -- she cracked the hubcap and added another dent to the wheel well. He just let it slide but I would have at least had her buy a new set of hubcaps.

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-30-2010 11:19 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331625)
Dad had a woman back into the car right before I borrowed it -- she cracked the hubcap and added another dent to the wheel well. He just let it slide but I would have at least had her buy a new set of hubcaps.

Hahaha the first time I read through that I thought it said "Dad had a woman in the back of the car..."

mlomker 03-30-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 331644)
Hahaha the first time I read through that I thought it said "Dad had a woman in the back of the car..."

haha. We be impressing the ladies in this ride.


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