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Super Bleeder!! 03-06-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
X-ray of welds plz thx.

rst95eclipse 03-06-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rst95eclipse (Post 180374)
Put the downpipe on! Snap, snap, post.

Tight fit, but pulled it off. How far will the radiator be pushed to the front? "That's the biggest front mount I've ever seen!"

Halon 03-06-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Gotta love the Weld-els!!!!

Jakey 03-06-2007 03:42 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CVD (Post 180429)
I dont think I've ever seen a welded piece where you didnt ask this. Do you have a weld fetish or something?

Yep.
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 180430)
Sure, any specific area you want?

Any weld process close-up you want?

Intercooler piping would be excellent. Tubular manifolds are not of interest to me. Tig or mig, what ever you all use when building intercooler piping.

niterydr 03-06-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 180457)
Yep.


Intercooler piping would be excellent. Tubular manifolds are not of interest to me. Tig or mig, what ever you all use when building intercooler piping.

Sure. We usually TIG IC piping as it is 99% of the time stainless, unless the customer is on a severe budget, then we will MIG mild steel.

Do you want to see raw welds on something? Endtank welds?

Just curious as to what you are looking for. I can have the guys go throw a bead down on some pipes to join them together, or what not.

niterydr 03-06-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...serialNumber=1
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...serialNumber=1

Some pics of the intercooler welding on my car after a few months of beating it up.

scheides 03-06-2007 05:28 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Man that looks like total crap, I'd tear that apart and re-do it. Let me know if you need me to show you how to actually weld.







....JBWeld that is.

niterydr 03-06-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 180467)
Man that looks like total crap, I'd tear that apart and re-do it. Let me know if you need me to show you how to actually weld.







....JBWeld that is.

JB welding is an aquired skill! I might have to hit you up for some lessons, as I haven't done it in years I might need a refresher course ;).

Pushit2.0 03-06-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Welding that IC was fun, inside/outside welded endtanks and in/out pipes. Then I used almost all the TIGs power to weld the endtank to the IC core, and about 4 24"x 1/8" alum. rod for one front weld. Chris came in the shop 2-3hours after I welded the IC and he said "hey you just get done welding that", It was a little hot. I will do some weld samples tonight and we will get pics up, it will be nice for the show floor anyways. So SS ic piping, Mild steel/chrome moly cage tube welds, Aluminum welding, and schedual 40 304 SS for the race tubular headers.

~John

scheides 03-06-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 180468)
JB welding is an aquired skill! I might have to hit you up for some lessons, as I haven't done it in years I might need a refresher course ;).

Yea, it's all about not touching *anything* except what you are welding together, and then as soon as your finger leaves the welding surface doubling back and wiping it with a paper towel. Pretty tough to get it right, really. If you want to do some practice JB Welding I do *not* suggest masturbation!!!

Swifty1638 03-07-2007 01:02 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Yea, right. Try it! The goal is to get off, before the JB hardens!

-A. Swift

niterydr 03-07-2007 01:05 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 180514)
Yea, right. Try it! The goal is to get off, before the JB hardens!

-A. Swift

That is enough!
/topic of JB weld on this thread.

Matt D. 03-07-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 180519)
That is enough!
/topic of JB weld on this thread.

I just laughed so hard I think I woke my roommate up.

rst95eclipse 03-07-2007 03:14 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
So when will Swanny be going publik?

Pushit2.0 03-08-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
The digital camera does not want to take a good close up pick for the welds, sorry jakey. I did get some more work done tonight, pics should be up sometime tomorrow. IC pipe is done, down pipe just needs a vband, water to air is mounted now I just need to fab up the custom endtank on the intake manifold side, exhaust manifold is done minus waste gate, then the Intake manifold with a q45 TB is my next project.

~John

PSI2HI 03-08-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Divided housing, or no?

niterydr 03-08-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
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Originally Posted by PSI2HI (Post 180745)
Divided housing, or no?

Yes.

How have you been?

PSI2HI 03-08-2007 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 180749)
Yes.

How have you been?

Running twin gates or single?

Not to bad, pluggin away waiting for winter to be done.

Pushit2.0 03-08-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
I am going to try 1 Tial 38mm with a 1bar spring for pump then add another spring for 1.6bar then a MBC and turn it up untill the head blows off the block, switching fuel at about 35psi. The Tial will be just off the #2 and #3 collector just befor the turbo. If that is not enough then I will add a 2nd waste gate. Right now the manifold is divided with a divided flange and the primary runners are within 1" of equal length.

~John

PSI2HI 03-08-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 180753)
I am going to try 1 Tial 38mm with a 1bar spring for pump then add another spring for 1.6bar then a MBC and turn it up untill the head blows off the block, switching fuel at about 35psi. The Tial will be just off the #2 and #3 collector just befor the turbo. If that is not enough then I will add a 2nd waste gate. Right now the manifold is divided with a divided flange and the primary runners are within 1" of equal length.

~John

I think your cutting yourself short on wastegate on both boost control and being able to release enough backpressure. What AR turbine?

Pushit2.0 03-08-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Then I will look at a 44 or 46 Tial or similar.

~John

PSI2HI 03-08-2007 12:28 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 180757)
Then I will look at a 44 or 46 Tial or similar.

~John


Your just gonna have to trial and error w/ boost control and monitoring back pressure ratio's. Problem is if you set it up for single gate your kinda stuck w/ a single gate unless you kind find some way of cutting the wastegate runners off and salvaging the collector. Baller up and get a TIAL 60mm :-p

niterydr 03-08-2007 01:14 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PSI2HI (Post 180763)
Your just gonna have to trial and error w/ boost control and monitoring back pressure ratio's. Problem is if you set it up for single gate your kinda stuck w/ a single gate unless you kind find some way of cutting the wastegate runners off and salvaging the collector. Baller up and get a TIAL 60mm :-p

"Boost control" is a realative term on this car.

Just want to keep it under 40psi.
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Originally Posted by PSI2HI (Post 180750)
Running twin gates or single?

Not to bad, pluggin away waiting for winter to be done.

Yeah same here. Go away snow!

Pushit2.0 03-08-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
It should be easy to add another Tial off the #2/3 collector. It would just be re coating the manifold.

~John

92EvilTalon 03-08-2007 01:53 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Looks nice John hope to see that White Nissan running again.

PSI2HI 03-08-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Whatever happened to your talon?

Pushit2.0 03-08-2007 04:30 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Sitting in the garage, it was good practice but I do not know if the car will be put together at anypoint. It seems that the full tube chassis with a fiberglass body is the way to go now days.

~John

Shane@DBPerformance 03-08-2007 05:33 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Depends if you are trying to actually run in a class though, or just run a fast time or run fast and still street drive it.

rst95eclipse 03-09-2007 04:19 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Why is Swanny in the closet? Swanny come out of the closet.

niterydr 03-09-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rst95eclipse (Post 180880)
Why is Swanny in the closet? Swanny come out of the closet.

What in the hell are you talking about?

niterydr 03-09-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...serialNumber=1
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...serialNumber=2
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...serialNumber=2
:smoking:

Halon 03-09-2007 10:41 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Sweet guys! But how are you going to fit the 1g MAS in there?

niterydr 03-09-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 180966)
Sweet guys! But how are you going to fit the 1g MAS in there?

We have a shrink ray, patent pending.
http://content.answers.com/main/cont...px-Reducto.jpg

Matt D. 03-10-2007 01:46 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Looks badass. Is there a reason for not aiming the turbo outlet right at the intercooler to give it a shorter route?

Pushit2.0 03-10-2007 01:58 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
I thought about doing that but I would have to make both endtanks custom. Then I do know know where I would put the BOV, it is a Greddy Type R so its not a small bov, Also it is a tight fit as it is with the big water to air over the tranny.

~John

rst95eclipse 03-10-2007 03:53 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 180903)
What in the hell are you talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rst95eclipse (Post 180591)
So when will Swanny be going publik?

??

Jakey 03-10-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
I may be missing something here but isn't running a single wastegate defeating the purpose of running a divided turbine housing and manifold?

Pushit2.0 03-10-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
http://www.lseperformance.com/galler...g2_itemId=3324
The waste gate will only be on the #2/3 collector, so the manifold will stay divided, if it runs less then 30psi I will be happy, race gas and track times are all I care about right now. If the boost goes low enough it will get a full pump gas tune, if not I will add another waste gate off the #1/4 collector.

~John

Goat Blower 03-10-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 180971)
Looks badass. Is there a reason for not aiming the turbo outlet right at the intercooler to give it a shorter route?

I thought about that too since the IC piping ends up being rather long. It would be a biscuit to make the custom end tanks, but if you clocked the compressor cover to point up, make the IC inlet face down to join up with just a coupler, then integrate a BOV into the IC outlet endtank, you'd have it. Mucho fabrication though. Might be a good project for myself when I get GT42 upgradeitus in the next year or so. :spin:

Looks good, should be a monster when it's done.

Matt D. 03-10-2007 01:29 PM

Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 180988)
I may be missing something here but isn't running a single wastegate defeating the purpose of running a divided turbine housing and manifold?

Why does it matter once the turbo is spooled?


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