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scheides 05-10-2012 11:31 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Ya, just don't let your car sit and idle for 40 minutes at a time :P

Murlo26 05-10-2012 11:34 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I would never idle the car longer than 20 mins for any reason honestly. I can't think of one at least.

Kracka 05-10-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 406292)
I can't think of one at least.

Christening the car with a lady?

Murlo26 05-10-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 406299)
Christening the car with a lady?

Car can be off for that, duh.

Unless we want the rumble there for vibrating murlo ;)

Kracka 05-10-2012 01:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
A/C to unsteam the windows son!!! Or heater if it's too cold for little Murlo ;)

I do like the vibrations idea though, poly mounts FTW in this case.

Murlo26 05-10-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 406309)
A/C to unsteam the windows son!!! Or heater if it's too cold for little Murlo ;)

I do like the vibrations idea though, poly mounts FTW in this case.

Steam = privacy :) that with my tint and its a no peep show venue. LOL @ heater.

Indeed, poly mounts!

niterydr 05-10-2012 02:43 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 406273)
Well I was busy last night doing logging and forgot the gopro needed to be charged, I will try and test it out tonight for fun.

I came to a realization though, I know why tuners hate DW injectors!!!! Because they suck to tune lol.

I am on revision 8 now for scaling/latencies and have done ~45 minutes of logging for each, that is over 5 hours of scaling lol. Still not dialed in yet. Ugh. I remember why I pay people for this shit, but I am learning a lot. I will get my trims under +/- 5% yet! The best I have seen so far on these is +/- 8%.

I have 0 problems with my DW 1000's in my AEM car :rock2:

Shane@DBPerformance 05-10-2012 04:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Turn off the o2 sensor and run it open loop. No fuel trims anymore... Your big MAF is going to make the car more inconsistant and have bigger swings than a stock sized MAF car with stock injectors.

Murlo26 05-10-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 406330)
Turn off the o2 sensor and run it open loop. No fuel trims anymore... Your big MAF is going to make the car more inconsistant and have bigger swings than a stock sized MAF car with stock injectors.

I am on the stock intake/MAF though right now. So in theory it should run fine correct? Assuming injectors are decent and not piles of crap?

Maybe I could just run open loop instead...hmmm, who knows. I am about 2 steps from ordering the 2150's and being done with it and just running open loop. I have talked with several people and on E85 people seem to get the 2150's to work perfectly fine.

Shane@DBPerformance 05-10-2012 04:56 PM

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Do you feel the car bucking or something?

Murlo26 05-10-2012 04:59 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 406333)
Do you feel the car bucking or something?

Not really, once I put my stock MAF back on to try and tune the DW injectors, regardless of the scaling/latency the car has felt super smooth.

I am just trying to get my trims to stay somewhere normal.

turbotalon1g 05-10-2012 08:32 PM

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Get the 2150s and be done with it, plus we know you are going to go bigger.

Halon 05-10-2012 09:11 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I love my High-Z FIC's (similar to ID1000's). Pretty much a High-Z fanboi now. 1000's or 2150's is probably all I will ever run.

Murlo26 05-11-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 406360)
Get the 2150s and be done with it, plus we know you are going to go bigger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 406368)
I love my High-Z FIC's (similar to ID1000's). Pretty much a High-Z fanboi now. 1000's or 2150's is probably all I will ever run.

Yea I have heard very good things about the FIC 2150's. All the guys I talked to said no surprises tuning them and on E85 they drive pretty damn good.

So I might order these today, we will see if the mood strikes me right.

Murlo26 05-11-2012 11:10 AM

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So it looks like a few people have suggested I may have a leak pre O2 sensor causing my issues.

Does anyone have stock X injectors I can borrow for a few days?

scheides 05-11-2012 11:11 AM

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Is anyone running 2150's on the stock X ecu successfully yet? I thought about putting them in my car but didn't wanna mess with them at the time...I'm sure someone has done it by now (and hopefully shared their results).

Murlo26 05-11-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 406415)
Is anyone running 2150's on the stock X ecu successfully yet? I thought about putting them in my car but didn't wanna mess with them at the time...I'm sure someone has done it by now (and hopefully shared their results).

Yea, plenty of people. On pump gas they aren't really recommended. But I just spoke with Golden and he has tuned two on E85 on the 2150's and he said they idle fine at like 800rpms and drive perfect.

You don't have your stock injectors do you by chance? :)

Shane@DBPerformance 05-11-2012 11:20 AM

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I usually run the 2150s in open loop, because the "small" swings that factory ECUs do around stoich during closed loop are huge swings with the 2150s. They tune amazing with standalones, you have to put up with some quirks on stock ECUs, since stock ECUs often don't work the best at very low pulse widths.

scheides 05-11-2012 11:38 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 406417)
Yea, plenty of people. On pump gas they aren't really recommended. But I just spoke with Golden and he has tuned two on E85 on the 2150's and he said they idle fine at like 800rpms and drive perfect.

You don't have your stock injectors do you by chance? :)

Nope I do not. Would love to see what all he did to get them to run nicely, as I'm sure there's some tweaks that are needed (esp per shane below)

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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 406418)
I usually run the 2150s in open loop, because the "small" swings that factory ECUs do around stoich during closed loop are huge swings with the 2150s. They tune amazing with standalones, you have to put up with some quirks on stock ECUs, since stock ECUs often don't work the best at very low pulse widths.

I wonder if there's a way to narrow that 'sweep' that's made during closed loop....I'll talk to tephra & mrfred.

Murlo26 05-11-2012 11:40 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 406421)
Nope I do not. Would love to see what all he did to get them to run nicely, as I'm sure there's some tweaks that are needed (esp per shane below)

I wonder if there's a way to narrow that 'sweep' that's made during closed loop....I'll talk to tephra & mrfred.


If you want, PM me and I can give you his email if you want to ask him a few things. I am not sure of all the details, but he didn't seem to have a problem dialing them in. I assume open loop for sure.

Or you can try a PM on EvoM or Evoxforums, name is Golden.


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