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Super Bleeder!! 07-30-2010 09:04 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Very nice!

Murlo26 07-30-2010 09:24 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
damn, nice power!

Matt D. 07-30-2010 10:01 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Very awesome, John. I'm glad you have it running.

Pushit2.0 07-30-2010 10:28 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
This was done with the 4 1600's as the primarys, and no secondary injectors were used. The EMS is not the issue, I tried another EMS and still no #8 injector, so they either need to wired up in a batch fire or I found 2 EMS's that will not run 8 injectors. The boost on WG pressure was 25psi, the 635 run was at 37psi. I am reving to 9500rpm, with how the power is still going up I could rev higher but I am at 90 some % duty cycle on the 1600's and I loose about 6psi of fuel pressure by redline. The intake air temps would only go up about 9deg over the run, but after a few back to back runs the temps would start at 120deg, so we added ice to get that down below 100 before the start of the run. I will see how it does on the street/track IAT wise. Coolant temps were nice and rock solid. The ramp rate was set to 100 and the AM2 correction was around 3-4% most of the night.

~John

turbotalon1g 07-30-2010 11:05 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
DO you have a number you are shooting for?

Pushit2.0 07-30-2010 12:13 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I was looking for about 600whp to start, get the chassis setup and find a way to make the hp usable.

I plan to set up the chassis the rest of this year and into next year, then when I have run as fast as I can with this power, figure out a way to make more.

Which will be getting the secondary injectors working, E98, and a boost a pump or something. I think the setup on good fuel, a lot of boost, and a little nitrous could make a little over 800whp.

~John

turbotalon1g 07-30-2010 12:40 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
A dude on Link made made 832awhp 567tq at 38-39psi and 13* of timing peak, boost only 2.0L on E85.

blackawdtsi 07-30-2010 12:58 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 350962)
A dude on Link made made 832awhp 567tq at 38-39psi and 13* of timing peak, boost only 2.0L on E85.

Was that on a heart breaker dyno though?


Glad to see the car running John! Makes me wish I kept my car. :beer:

Sorry to rain on the parade, but I was expecting a lot more out of your setup. Didn't you make more when you had it running at the last shop?

Pushit2.0 07-30-2010 01:26 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
610 was all it made last time, and it was a short un usable power band. That was on c-16 and a little more boost then I am running now.

I know its not crazy power, there are stock bottom end cars close to what my setup made.

I can only hope some track time will show what the car is capable of, a dyno number is just that, a number.

~John

turbotalon1g 07-30-2010 02:43 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
It was on a dynojet and that is what the shootout numbers are supposed to represent.

As a non-hater of JDM john, I was posting the number as a target that he could aim for if he pleased.

I know for me having some kind of a target/info on what the setup is capable of helps me figure out issues/part combos.

I guessed people would take my statement as some kind of hate, but oh well.

You don't have to tell this guy about numbers the only number I care about is the miles on the setup (high) and the number at the track (low), you know this john from tales of the Red and panda express.

Good luck, that car i put numbers from is setup to be for mile racing, but will still get taken to the strip.
If his numbers don't help you, then this will be the last you will here in your thread if not I can keep you updated.

DB Performance 07-30-2010 04:10 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
He isn't that far off. Shootout numbers are closer to SAE Dynojet numbers. STD dynojet numbers are usually 2-4% higher than SAE Dynojet numbers. So add 3% to 740 = 762. then raise the boost 2 psi. 762 + 30whp = 792, then add a degree of timing 792 + 802. Then let everything cool down a lot. 802 + 20 = 822. On high HP cars it's common to see swings of 20-40whp from one run to the next just from heat, a little more or less boost, a little more or less timing, etc. That 832awhp car has put down more on E98 though, but he has been having oil pump problems.

Pushit2.0 07-30-2010 05:58 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Aaron I am glad to see what other people are able to do with similar or bigger/smaller setups. I am not on the link forums or any of the places that talk about the Texas mile stuff.

I am happy with how much power the car made, if someone thinks it should make more, then build a car and show me how its done. I will right up a big thank you post in the next couple days, but for now Thanks to Ryan, Kyle, and DB for staying late and helping me threw the issues we did run into.

~John

awd-drifter 07-30-2010 06:01 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
those are insane numbers John. I don't even think I can drive a car like that, especially a car that's 600+ whp. insane man. great stuff and even better to see a Galant make that kind of power :D

Shotgun! 07-30-2010 07:56 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Those are great numbers John! We all know that there's a lot left in it once you get more pump and better (and or more) injectors. I think it's obvious that this isn't meant to be some dyno queen. Now focus on using this 635whp to run some great times!

niterydr 07-30-2010 11:39 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Plenty left in it for power. Get that SOB to the track and make use of that uber light chassis you have.

Pushit2.0 07-30-2010 11:43 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
The car just feels light, and I have hit it 2 times in 2nd, damn this thing should haul the mail when its not spinning to revlimiter, ask Shotgun he knows.

~John

awd-drifter 07-31-2010 01:19 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 351041)
The car just feels light, and I have hit it 2 times in 2nd, damn this thing should haul the mail when its not spinning to revlimiter, ask Shotgun he knows.

~John

Could it seat 4? hahah. Do you know how light it is with you and without you in it currently?

santa 07-31-2010 02:37 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
The car looks great John! I'm glad its working good for you now! It was nice seeing ya tonight for my near fail dyno attempt lol.

Swifty1638 07-31-2010 09:58 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Weighs in at like 2450. Pretty fricken light, I'd say. I can't wait to see this car in more action.

Pushit2.0 07-31-2010 11:29 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I will get the car back up in the air and check everything over and switch to the good tires. Setup the shift light and the 2 step.

Rock falls Aug 7/8 is the next test day, I will try to make it out there. Then the next day is Aug 28/29.

The car weighs in at 2450 as swift said, I weigh 185, so it should be around 2600-2650 running down the track. The turbo setup and water to air setup weigh a lot.

~John

Swifty1638 07-31-2010 11:30 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I look forward to it..hopefully no 4am nights setting up that 2-step..lol. I can already hear the wife..and neighbors...:D

turbotalon1g 07-31-2010 11:49 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 351076)
I will get the car back up in the air and check everything over and switch to the good tires. Setup the shift light and the 2 step.

Rock falls Aug 7/8 is the next test day, I will try to make it out there. Then the next day is Aug 28/29.

The car weighs in at 2450 as swift said, I weigh 185, so it should be around 2600-2650 running down the track. The turbo setup and water to air setup weigh a lot.

~John

LMAO, weighs a lot. Good luck man, let us know when you go out there I wouldn't mind seeing this action first hand.

Pushit2.0 07-31-2010 04:51 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
The turbo is 45lbs, the exhaust manifold and WG's are another 40lbs, the W/A intercooler core, heat exchanger, lines, pump, and 4 gallons of water another 100lbs. That is about 185lbs total, but is weight that needs to be there, other wise I make no OMG hp, o wait I do not make OMG hp, zing.

~John

Swifty1638 07-31-2010 04:54 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
shut it john. It's still more then 97% of people out there, and on this board. and it seems to work well together. It's been fun watching/helping were I can, seeing this go from stands/white bay, to the tubed moon taxi grocery getter it is now. Mount up those 2 rear seats, and make it an amusement park ride...

John's Moon Taxi service..coming to an on-ramp near you..;)

Pushit2.0 07-31-2010 04:59 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Back OT, I found a few 1/4 mile calculators and they say 8.8@153mph with 2600lbs and 740whp. So to address Brown mans question, I wanted 600whp, check, now I want to get as close to 8.8@153mph as I can then add more power.

~John

goodhart 07-31-2010 05:09 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
You got a link to those 1/4 mile calculators?

BTW, B.I.R. has wed night drags on the 4th and 25th and a Bracket racing weekend on the 21-22nd also.

Swifty1638 07-31-2010 05:10 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Mike, BIR on wednesday nights require you to run street tires and a full exhaust.

Pushit2.0 07-31-2010 05:11 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I thought you needed to have exhaust that exits behind the driver to run on Wed night drags, My BFG tires are street tires but also they do NO track prep so I would slide all over. I have lined up a trailer for the 7th at Rock falls.

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html

~John

Matt D. 07-31-2010 05:21 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
John, I have nothing going on that day if you'd like a helping hand or some moral support.

C3L1CA 07-31-2010 08:02 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
According to that I should be 9.2 @ 145. haha

Good luck at the track, should be cool to see what it can run.

Pushit2.0 08-01-2010 12:16 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
So based on the numbers, C3L1CA your car was 16% slower on the ET and 3.5% slower on the MPH. Based on that I should be in the 10.2@147mph range. What tires and 60ft did you have at the track? The fastest GVR4 is a 9.5xx@something slowish like 145.

~John

FattyBoomBatty 08-01-2010 02:05 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 351165)
So based on the numbers, C3L1CA your car was 16% slower on the ET and 3.5% slower on the MPH. Based on that I should be in the 10.2@147mph range. What tires and 60ft did you have at the track? The fastest GVR4 is a 9.5xx@something slowish like 145.

~John

Oooo! You better raise that HP number up then. Pretty weak at 635, if I say so myself. lol. I want to see in car video of JDM John shifting faster than lightning.

Pushit2.0 08-01-2010 11:29 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...ctur_26001.jpg

There is the boost graph, I forgot to post it up.

~John

Halon 08-01-2010 11:34 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Nice! That should be close to mid 700's on MAP's dyno.

turbotalon1g 08-02-2010 10:01 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I'm pumped for track day, so far so good?
Get any street time on it? :wink:

Pushit2.0 08-02-2010 11:51 AM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
I have about 122 miles on this new setup, plus 5 gallons of E-85 for tuning. I have only gotten on it 2 times, both in 2nd gear. The car pulls straight and I can down shift into 2nd at high way speed.

~John

C3L1CA 08-02-2010 12:13 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 351165)
So based on the numbers, C3L1CA your car was 16% slower on the ET and 3.5% slower on the MPH. Based on that I should be in the 10.2@147mph range. What tires and 60ft did you have at the track? The fastest GVR4 is a 9.5xx@something slowish like 145.

~John

I also can't drive as well as I should and this was on fuzion street tires spinning through all of first. The 60' time on the 10.7 run was 1.839 which is pretty crappy. I think that thing has a 9 in it, you just gotta drive the crap outa it!

Good luck dude, i'm sure you'll have a ton of people waiting to hear what this beast does down the track!

Pushit2.0 08-02-2010 01:07 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
We will see, I hope the drive train stays in one piece for a pass or 2.

~John

Shane@DBPerformance 08-02-2010 02:08 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 351140)
According to that I should be 9.2 @ 145. haha

Good luck at the track, should be cool to see what it can run.

Mph is close, but the ETs from the calulators are more for a RWD auto.

Pushit2.0 08-02-2010 03:11 PM

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 
http://www.dsmtimes.org/times.php?He...pe=GVR4&Page=1

Theres a few more in the 9's but I would be ok with the #5 spot first time out and on e-85.

~John


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