Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Anyone thinking about complaining about the $5, seriously needs to relax. The amount of time and effort that goes into the planning of this event. I usually end up taking money out of my own pocket to cover the packets, gas for bomber run, etc. Normally I would not mind, but I don't want this to be an ongoing expense that I have to tack on in addition to the trip we're already taking :)

Anyone whining about this or that little thing they need for their car, suck it up and lets go! You've known about this for months, its show time, do or die, get-R-done, lets go! Spring is here and we're going to have fun!

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

If I pay $5 to ban someone, would that go towards the $5 cruise payment?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

No, but if you send me $10, you can ban someone for a week as well as come on the cruise :)

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Hmm can I complain, since this was never talked about from the start.. We weren't expecting packets or a bomber run... We did fine going to Duluth by just following each other and having out own maps handy, just in case...

What does the 5 dollars cover? Paper is quite cheap. :P

$5 x 30 cars is quite a profit.. even though you used time and gas to set everything up. Id say 1 or 2 dollars per car would be a little more realistic if anything.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I'm not going on the cruise so I will gladly pay to ban anyone that bitches about the $5.

Keep in mind I didn't say how long they would be banned for. ;)

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

ooh snap!

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Ban me then.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I kind of agree with you there. I mean, aren't we cruising together? Why would we need our own packets and stuff if we are just following the "lead person"?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

its 5 bucks... it supports the site as much as it does the cruise.... *sigh*

skip the grande-mocha-choco-fruitcake lattee coffee from starbucks for one day, and you'll have 5 bucks.

http://www.polishmafia.com/rolleyes.gif

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I dont drink coffee. :D

Im not cheap, but I guess im just trying to make a point. Im sure ill end up paying 5 bucks.. ugh.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Kracka - Can I give you the cash on tues at OC?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

The packets are given out so that no one gets lost, people know where we're stopping, etc. Some people will want to go fast, some slow. This way no one gets left behind and we can all meet up for lunch, wayside stops, etc.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Peter makes a good point, its not like i am not good for the $$, but i don't like having my pants pulled down, the whole point of the cruise to be a GROUP, so no one should get left behind unless something gets fucked up.

Also i didnt think you would want it paypaled cause of the fees.
Well at least this means prizes should be bomb for the dyno day with all the money going in.

Nick/munchgsx said he will get rear calipers to me tonight, i should be putting the tranny back in on saturday, then all thats left is TB, gauges, waterpipe and maybe a tune, well at least some test time before the cruise.
Oh and i am supposed to coat the underbody, but like i said bare bones.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

We will be having the map packets, they worked too well on the fall cruise and I will not even considering going without them. With these larger groups it gets very difficult to keep 20+ cars together in a solid groups when passing through towns with stoplights, stop signs, etc. We do our best planning a route that avoids as much of this as possible, but its not feasible to avoid it all. It is much easier knowing that everyone knows exactly where we are going just in case they get split up from the main group so they are able to catch up to us either on the road or at the next pre-determined meeting spot that is marked on the map. Honestly, if you have a problem with the $5 fee send me a PM and we can discuss why it is that you are unable to afford the cost (less than 2 gallons of gas or a movie ticket) for two days of fun that supports the forum and community that we spend a portion of our day using as entertainment (posting, reading, shoutbox, arcade, etc.). The reason we do a "bomber-run" is so we can have the most fun route possible. On the fall cruise and now also this one we found some roads that we otherwise would not have traveled that are very neat roads that everyone is sure to get a thrill from. Also, had it not been for the bomber run, we would have never been able to plan/make that fly-by video that Scheides posted a few days ago.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Don't like having your pants pulled down? We are asking for a $5 donation to the site to help cover the expenses. We aren't trying to make a profit so please stop acting like we are out to screw you. Any left-over funds are going right back to the community in the form of prizes anyway. I don't know about you guys, but I would love to have things where Scheides isn't losing his personal money every year on the site and events.

There will always be at least a few cars that get separated, this can not be avoided which is exactly why we have the packets.

As for the Paypal fees, I am willing to eat those out of my own pocket in order to make this as easy as possible for people; if you'd prefer $5 cash is fine too.

Planning these large group events takes a lot of time and effort, and with that comes expenses. I am thankful to have a board admin like Scheides to help make all of this possible; having him help me with the cruises makes things easier on me and better for the entire group.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

What are the expenses? Id be willing to donate my time to plan events for free, and if there was some material expense, like food, or paper, I would want it reimbursed sure, but I dont see that here..

How many pages is this packet? If its just one sheet of info, why not post it up as a link and have people print it? If people forget it, or dont print it, then thats too bad for them, and they can meet us at the hotel later.

The bomber run, to me isnt necessary, since I wont be doing any flybys on the highways for a camera...

And what happens if all 30+ people signed up now dont prepay?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

The packets will probably be around 10-15 pages for this cruise. I don't remember exactly what they were in the fall, but I'm thinking 16 or 17 pages.

I would post it up for people to print themselves because:
1. I don't want the exact route being public knowledge ahead of time for a few reasons, but I will say the S2k group ran into many issues doing that in the past.
2. People won't print them, we'd be lucky if half the people came with the packets printed.

The bomber run may not be necessary to you, but it makes the overall group experience much better. We found some neat detours on the fall cruise and we found some really cool roads for this spring cruise that we otherwise would have not traveled.

I just ran some numbers and even at $5/car we'll probably still be in the red all said and done after the cruise.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Don't cry about it, why is donating $5 to the site such a big deal? I'm going to pay $10 to have people banned. :lol:

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

wow I've never seen so much commotion about $5. Stop trying to save $3 and just go with it. Scheides has spent a ton of time and effort putting this all together and making sure it will be tons of fun. If anything do it as a thank you to him. You guys need to get the sand outa your vaginas and quit bitching like little silly sallys.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

It's $5. They've reserved a section of hotel rooms, bomber run, etc. In my experience the car cruises I have been on range from $10-$15 per person. Last year I went on the MNSubaru cruise to La Crosse. 70 cars. $10 a person. For example: My girlfriend and I went, that cost $20, even though she didn't drive down she still had to pay $10. It could be a lot worse. You only have to pay $5 per car. That means pack 5 people in your car and its still only $5. Bring someone with you, split the costs...then it's only $2.50 a person. The only difference is that at the MNSubaru cruise we had food catered and a shelter rented out for us.

Even with 70 cars, we got maps of our routes to keep us all together. You'd be surprised how hard it is to keep that many cars together on a highway down to La Crosse.

I honestly don't think that paying $5 to the people who are taking their time to organize this is asking to much. If $5 is going to make or break your decision on whether or not to go...maybe a new hobby should be taken up?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Can i get a deal and only pay $4.85. I can't afford the $5...

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I'll gladly pay to have you banned, too. :nod:

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Do you think this way about everything? Maybe you should start organizing your own events if you think these things are so cheap and easy to put together. I've organized and helped run my fair share of meets, dyno days and cruises that I'll be surprised if I don't have gray hair before I'm 40.

I've spent more money out of my pocket and time out of my life for these events than I care to think about and never asked for anything in return. Allan, Jana, Scheides and Kracka are doing the same, the least you all who are whining about $5 could do is suck it up and pay respect where it's due instead of getting spoon fed all the time.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Like I said, Id be happy to help organize events, but it seems to be only a couple people that want to do it, and they keep it secretive.

I wish it was more of a group effort to organize these events, but its not. And this is why Im asking about the costs involved here.

Last springs cruise went just fine, no one got lost, my car got thrown up in, it was a dandy time. Just trying to make a point, but only a couple people see it.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Ah, the fond memories of Duluth and a slut that I haven't talked to since.

I see Peter's point, it does seem s3cr3t at times, but then I also see the advantages of not publicly posting the route ahead of time for cops to setup traps or something. Eh, it's $5, and Emily is not going so I'll probably carpool with someone anyway. I suppose I can afford $2.50, just this once :)

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

When Scheides and I were discussing whether or not to ask people for a $5 donation I honestly thought that it would not be a big deal. It obviously is to some and I really don't know what to say. This cruise weekend will be a lot of fun and I don't want some nonsense like this hanging a cloud over the event.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Holy balls, 3 pages of people whining about a $5 charge per car? Come on. I'm sure there are tons of out-of-pocket expenses that Scheides donates to getting this stuff put together. I'm sure this site isn't free to run either, so $5 here and there shouldn't be a big deal for all the people that come on here and have fun/learn shit.

Yeah, joining is free. But running it isn't...

I'd pay the $5 without thinking twice. It's $5. I'm not even charging Scheides the labor for the decals I'm helping create. They're time consuming as hell too! I'd rather help the guy out and support the site!

With all that said, quit being stingy.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

That's just it, if someone didn't take the reigns then nothing would get done and there would never be any events. If you want to plan something don't be afraid to talk to Scheides about it, there's always plenty of work to do in planning and organizing stuff throughout the entire year and well into the future.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

The people who are complaining about this are rediculous. its only $5!! big deal! thats like 2 burgers at a fast food place, and this is for an event that's for 2 days. The time they put in, money they spent for gas and organizing the packets and stuff. just do it and support the site..

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Instead of $5 can i just donate a box of donut holes?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I don't really understand what we are keeping a secret. It seems like Scheides and I are posting an update in one for or another every few days and keeping people updated on what we're doing regarding the cruise. The exact route is kept under wraps, but that is for the good of everybody to help avoid intruders and possible police intervention.

How could organizing a cruise be more of a group event? I'd love to see 50 people gather in a room (or on a forum) and accomplish anything productive that everyone agreed upon. Everyone knows about the costs involved, Scheides and I aren't hiding anything and its not like we were getting hookers on 'Style dollars while down in LaCrosse planning stuff.

We had numerous issues last spring with cars getting separated and trying to wait for everyone; these packets help to avoid all of that.

The spring cruise was great! I loved it as did most people, but there is always room for improvement which is exactly why I asked Scheides to help me in planning beginning last fall.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

If you want to organize an event, why don't you just organize an event. I can understand why people like to keep the organization groups small. 2 people may like one particular route and the other people in the planning group may like another one. Then it becomes an internal pissing match of what to do.

The reason for some sort of secrecy is that in planning an event like this someone is always going to have their .02 on how it should be run. Try setting up an event and telling your possibly attendees EVERY SINGLE DETAIL. Some people will say, "AWESOME!!!" Others will say, "THAT IS STUPID!!!" Then you will have the people in the middle saying "It'd be better if we did this...". Secrecy in this aspect prevents conflict. Now when you attend this cruise, and if you still don't like it, then plan your own cruise and make it out to be how you wanted.

Personally I'm just glad that someone else goes through setting everything up and says what, where, when, why and who.

Are you really sure you want La Crosse hookers? ;)

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Only if they are Dunkin Donut brand or equivalent!

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Lets say I rent a bus and everyone piles in it. So I have 40 people in my bus splitting $5 equals twelve and a half cents per person. Does that work too?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

That is acceptable. But, now you are faced with the problem of who to make pay $.12 and $.13 in your group, or, are you going to ask everyone to pay $.13 and skim the $.20 off the top to put in your own pocket as profit?

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

I will be using the buddy system so it will only be twenty-five cents a couple or as I like to call it, a team. That way I won't have to worry about twelve vs thirteen cents.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

What happens when the 400lb dude on the bus who takes up two spots? He is probably going to bitch that he has to pay $.25 by himself!!!

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Don't ask, he is probably on the corner now bribing some homeless man with a half-eaten rotten cheeseburger to go steal him a city bus.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

http://www.partybuses.com/OrangeTiger3.cfm

You are all in luck. I should rent the "Orange Tiger" and throw a kegger on it on the way to La Crosse. I will add a fee on top of the $0.125 fee charged by the cruise planners. I haven't decided how much yet but $20.125 sounds fair to me. I will have a keg of PBR and as you can see in the link, there will be mood lighting, yes folks thats right, mood lighting. Also since we won't need to stop for potty breaks, we will beat all of the Evos and Dsmers to La Crosse, plus have a good buzz going too.

Re: MitsuStyle Spring cruise -April 12-13, 2008
 

Well if the 40 people on the bus each threw in an extra .05 he could bribe the homeless person with $2. Thats a 40oz right there to hold him over for the night!