14b Is Dieing

[Halon]

hey i just gotta question. I think the seals are beginning to go out on the turbo. I can smell the car slightly burning oil now. I've got 153,157,160,160 compression, and refurbished head with new valve stem seals, new head gasket. so i would think none of those are causing the oil burning, which makes me think its prolly the seals goin out in the turbo. If anyone else has any ideas what it could be that is burning oil then please lemme know. But the last thing i wanted to ask was how hard is it to like rebuild the turbo? i've never done any turbo work in my life, and there isn't crap for performance shops around here, so i was thinkin it'd save me a lot of money if i could just rebuild this thing myself, if anyone has tips or any info or anything about rebuilding em, please help point me in the right direction. If its a bad idea for me to try to rebuild it, then don't be scared to tell me im a moron for just thinking of trying it out!

[A//// Guy]

Make sure you pan isnt leaking or the return line from the turbo to the pan, right now mines leaking and after I shut the car off it smells to... I have to get on that soon.

[Super Bleeder!!]

agp is somewhere around you

[Halon]

its 3 hours away. and what would shop charge to rebuild a turbo? prolly more then a 14b is worth? figure the cost of them rebuilding it, plus 20 bux in gas there, 20 bux back, the 20 bux there when i go pick it up, 20 bux back, that right there is 80 bux in gas alone. if possible id like to do it myself, unless its not possible for someone to just do. If that's the case and its too expensive to pay someone to do it, ill just run it till it dies and once it dies ill just upgrade to a 50 trim or sumthin.

[Kracka]

A turbo rebuild generally runs right around $300.

[Halon]

damn, so is it basically something i wouldn't be able to do? its not as easy as poppin in some seals or sumthin. i figure it isn't, but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

[MATCHBX]

Double check for shaft play in the turbo. That would be you first sign that your seals are going out. The "seals" are actually the bushings that the shaft turns inside of. Once they wear themselves out of round, the oil is allowed to leak by. If you have access to an old 14b that is bad, you could practice on that to learn how to do it. You would need a really good set of internal snap-ring pliers (not Fleet Farm $5 specials) and some other misc. regular tools. You would obviously need a rebuild kit. I believe they run close to $100 (please correct me if I'm wrong). Usually it's the bushings that go out but from time to time the shaft wears out where it contacts the bushings. So be prepared that there is possibly internal damage as well. If it's just starting to smoke, then it probably isn't too bad inside there yet. But it won't get any better as time goes on.


I agree with Peter as well. Make sure you are not leaking oil onto something to make it smell like burning oil. That's one of the problems with Terina's car that we will be taking care of in the spring. If she drives normal you don't smell it, but when she gets hard on the throttle it stinks to high heaven when you get out.

[Kracka]

Good condition used 14B's generally go for around $100-150.

[MATCHBX]

So basically, if you find one that is used and in decent condition. You could rebuild it for about $200-250, price including rebuild kit (provided you could do the work yourself), and you'd have a nearly new one. Would that be acurate? Was I right in saying the rebuild kits run about $100? That's just what I thought I had seen on a site somewhere before. Do you guys have any links to sites that sell rebuild kits? I used to have one but I have no idea where it went.

[CVD]

You wouldnt quite have a nearly new one. Without the ability to balance everything once you got it back together I seriously doubt the new one would last a real long time.