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LightningGSX
12-26-2005, 12:12 AM
This is the Sandia National Laboratories' Z machine discharging AFTER firing.It's basically a huge bank of capacitors, which all fire into a tiny cylinder of human hair sized wires.

It has an output power of about 290 trillion watts, which is for nanosecends, about 80 times the entire world's output of electricity.It has reached temps of 1.6 million°C(2.9 million°F), the surface temp of Sun is about 6000°C(11000°F).According to Sandia's website, it runs off "normal wall current".

It has also been used to propel a tiny plate of aluminum to over 76,000 MPH in less than a second, an acceleration of about 10 billion Gs.When the plate hits it's target, it produces a shockwave of about 217.5 million PSI.

There are plans for the X-1, a larger accelerator scheduled to follow Z, that should be able to produce more than 1,000 trillion watts of power, and temperatures of more than 3 million degrees.

EclipseGST
12-26-2005, 12:48 AM
Wow... I wish I had that amount of money and time on my hands!

tim
12-26-2005, 02:06 AM
Wow, seems like something that could be put to use for energy conservation or something.How do the components survive at 2.9million deg. F? Even if it is for an extremely short amount of time I would think it would destroy anything.

Pushit2.0
12-26-2005, 01:48 PM
That is sweet.

How do the components survive at 2.9million deg. F? Even if it is for an extremely short amount of time I would think it would destroy anything.

That is the idea. The magnetic field created when the metal explodes pulls the metal in, and the idea is that this will happen so fast the particals fuse, thus fusion and we would have and "endless" power source. I would think we could use the heat created to boil water and power steam turbines to drive generators, similar to what nuclear power plants do now. But we would not have nuclear waist to deal with.

~John

Super Bleeder!!
12-26-2005, 05:51 PM
CITE YOUR SOURCES CHEATER!!! F-

"In experiments with the basic vacuum hohlraum, the discharge of energy through the wires creates a magnetic field that compresses the exploded wire array at a speed equivalent to traveling 3,000 miles in one second. The vaporized particles, pushed inward by the magnetic field, collide with each other at the magnetic axis. The collisions produce intense radiation, enough to heat the surrounding walls of the hohlraum to 140 eV (approximately 1.6 million degrees). The X-ray radiation emitted from the walls is then used to study the properties of materials at high temperatures and pressures." -via sandia site\

http://www.sandia.gov/media/z290.htm

all i have to add to this thread, is RIGHT HAND RULE :)

LightningGSX
12-27-2005, 05:14 AM
Power from fusion isn't really anymore endless than any other fuel, it's just far more efficient, second only to antimatter.

Halon
12-27-2005, 07:34 AM
But it wouldn't produce the radioactive waste like our current fission plants do. They are already building a Fusion Test reactor in France. I read up on it about a month ago, and it didn't sound like it was using anything like what this picture was. It was using some kind of donut shaped encloser with the fusion reaction inside it, andjust like John said, they put it in a huge tank of water and make a big old steam engine, which is exactly how fission plants work right now.

LightningGSX
12-28-2005, 02:17 AM
I don't believe they're attempting fusion at this point, they're just perfecting the technolgy, so one day they can produce the 2-3 million degrees needed to initiate fusion.

I don't think fusion will ever be a good source of energy(not in our lifetimes at least), maybe propulsion systems and stuff like that, but no fusion power plants.While fusion might be an efficient release of energy, extracting any useful work from it is far from efficient.As far as I know, the only way to contain it at those temps is with a strong magnetic field, which itself requires huge amounts of energy, more than can be extracted from the fusion.

Halon
12-28-2005, 07:42 AM
http://science.howstuffworks.com/fusion-reactor.htm

That's where I read up about the ITER test plant in france, and how they are using a donut shaped enclosure for the reaction to take place inside. I guess I find it interesting since I currently work on fission plants. I think fusion plants would be sweet, but hopefully they don't pop up too quick or I will be out of a job!

Super Bleeder!!
12-28-2005, 11:49 AM
the donut's geometric name is a Toroid, just in case you want to sound super smart ;)