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niterydr
11-22-2005, 08:38 PM
DSMDUDE-The factory 4g63 CAST crank can be reground just fine. Re-nitriting is recommended, and the cast should work just fine. I have had personal experience with a few renitrated cranks that have been undercut and they work just fine.
Is a factory crank that isn't undercut nice? Yes, is it required, not always when on a budget.

dsmdude
11-22-2005, 11:17 PM
how much does the regrind cost with the nitrate? a good used crank is like 50 bucks wouldn't this be cheaper than the undercut?

i could see doing it possibly with the 2.4l as it is getting harder to find the 2.4 blocks and cranks.

dsmdude
11-22-2005, 11:20 PM
i would do it more for piece of mind. even if it did cost a little more at least that is 1 less thing the machine shop has the possibility of screwing up. curious- how much does the grind job usually go for?

niterydr
11-23-2005, 09:22 AM
Typically grinding runs about $90 bucks, I think the nitrating is $100-200ish (I am thinking $100, but it could be more, not sure)...so you are looking at roughly $200 into the crank. Sometimes its cost effective, sometimes not, just depends upon the availability of cranks. Compared to a good used crank, not cost effective, compared to a new crank from mitsubishi at list price? yes its cheaper.

JET
11-23-2005, 06:43 PM
DSMDUDE-The factory 4g63 CAST crank can be reground just fine. Re-nitriting is recommended, and the cast should work just fine. I have had personal experience with a few renitrated cranks that have been undercut and they work just fine.
Is a factory crank that isn't undercut nice? Yes, is it required, not always when on a budget.
Me thinks the Swanster should check again, as the 4G63 cranks are forged, not cast. Almost all import cranks are forged, most american cranks are cast though.

niterydr
11-23-2005, 07:05 PM
Uhh..Jet, I am not sure what you put in your motor, maybe an Eagle forged crank or something, but I am pretty damm sure they are cast. Actually I KNOW they are cast. They are a good casting, but they are cast. Go look at the casting marks on a crank and tell me that is from forging. The 1993+ 3000gt vr4 cranks are forged. I don't remember about other cars from the top of my head.
I dunno, I've only delt with about a hundred 4g63/4g64 cranks, maybe I've just missed all the forged ones. :)
Just giving ya shit buddy, everyone makes mistakes.
Back to on topic:
Did you ever figure out your bearing situation Mike?

Pushit2.0
11-25-2005, 07:27 PM
I thought the 4g63 cranks were cast, and I have looked all over the net, Only to find ither they are cast or forged. There are a number of people saying both for the 4g63/4g64, ither forged or cast. I hit a cast crank(spare 3/s crank we know is cast, and a spare DSM crank) lightly with a hammer and they sound almost the same. Then we tried Ryans forged 3/s crank and that was a higher pitch ring. Also the casting or parting line in the crank is another way to tell. A cast crank has a thin or "sharp" ridge to it and a forged crank has a flat and wide parting line. So ither way the DSM crank is good for all the power the block can handle, if its forged or not.

~John