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slowbubblecar
09-26-2005, 10:03 AM
I am looking at them and cant decide what to get. I am thinking of getting either the PLX M-250, innovate LC1 or the AEM. Are there really any big diferences between widebands? On ebay, the inovate one is ike 285 shipped, the m-250 and the aem are 350 shipped. All of them come with guages. I wouldn't think there would be much of a difference. What one do you think I should get? I don't want to buy the kit and make a wideband myself either.

CDeutsch
09-26-2005, 11:03 AM
Check how much replacement sensors are for each unit. I have the M-300 and it can use VW sensors that are really cheap. The unit mounts on the steering column perfect.

The M-300 is $325 from PLX. When I bought mine I found a distributer whose prices were cheaper than PLX.

scheides
09-26-2005, 11:36 AM
I have the M-300 from PLX as well and love it! Replacement sensors are like $40, can't beat that. The whole unit, including the wiring harness is very nice. All cables are wrapped nicely in a nice, soft, rubbery sleve to avoid any weather or tearing, and it came with decent instructions. Install was a piece of cake, even hooking it up for narrowband emulation to replace my stock sensor (on my 2g).

Also, I've taken out and then re-installed the sensor about 4 times, no signs of wear anywhere on the unit/system.

I have no experience with any of the other brands out there, so I cannot speak for them. Wideband rules, though, tuning is a piece of cake. I get 25 mpg on the freeway on the stock ecu w/ a stock 6-bolt in the car, and it makes good, drivable power at every throttle position. This, with a s-afc2 and 650's.

Shane@DBPerformance
09-26-2005, 11:55 AM
The Innovate also uses the cheap VW sensors. The AEM uses a different plug, so replacement sensors will be quite a bit more.

Outlaw1
10-01-2005, 12:57 PM
If you're not set on having a guage display, you might check out http://www.zeitronix.com/order/order.htm . That unit is capable of displaying and logging boost, EGT and A/F. Kinda pricy but might be something to look at.

slowbubblecar
10-05-2005, 05:33 PM
This wideband kit would work fine with dsmlink right? I am not sure why summit is cheaper than ebay or anyone else on it so that is why I am asking. I don't want the zeitronix one because having it do the functions of a boost and egt guage cost as much as it does to buy the guages by themselves. I also have all 3 of the other guages anyhow.


INN-3744 $149.95
Estimated Ship Date: 10/14/05


Brand: Innovate Technology Inc.
Product Line: Innovate LC-1 Standalone Wideband Controller
Quantity: Sold individually.

Data Acquisition, LC-1 Lambda Cable, Standalone Wideband Controller, Digital Input/Output, Kit

Make sure your engine is running smoothly.
The Innovate LC-1 Standalone Wideband Controller is a complete wideband controller built in to a sealed cable. It features the patented digital measurement principal found in the LM-1, and includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs.

howslowcanyougo
10-05-2005, 07:52 PM
I have the PLX-M300 as well, it has a bright display and works great with DSMLINK, and you can use it's O2 sensor to replace your stock front sensor and it will similate the narrow bad to your ECU while BOTH running it's diplay and logging over to your DSMLINK.

I got mine off a Ebay dealer for $299, nice setup!

slowbubblecar
10-05-2005, 11:57 PM
I am thinking I would rather just get the basic wideband kit as I already have my triple guage pod filled and I would need dsmlink to adjust the tune any how. I will just plan on running it through dsmlink and I don't really care to spend 100 more on a guage if it isn't needed.

slowbubblecar
10-06-2005, 12:06 AM
Also, what is the difference between the regular wideband controller and the one with the lambada cable?

Shane@DBPerformance
10-06-2005, 12:55 AM
LC-1 is a wideband system built into a cable, most have some box with electronics in it connected to the system. It has no display. The part# you have up there is the system without the O2 sensor. The one that includes the sensor is usually $50 more.