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Onefast99gsx
09-01-2005, 01:26 PM
Thanks Pimpin and thanks to Shane and DSMstyle for thier great comments. I watched again at lunch and i just don't have the words to even write a big paragraph. Some of these people only have a few days left in them if that. They showed dead bodies laying outside the dome, trash everywhere, violence. There is human feces inside and outside the dome everywhere. Kids are balling. An old lady was sitting there matting her face with a wet hanky. She looked maybe 75. Looked like she had a day or two left in her. Starving and thirst is one thing but can you imagine the psychological effects of this. This has become a disaster beyond belief. These people have nowhere to go. Unlike the WTC incident, you could go a few blocks from the WTC and business would be pretty much normal. This however is miles upon miles of area that is in total disaster. If anyone ever saw the movie with Kurt Russell, "Escape from New York", it reminds me of that. All of Manhattan became a prison. It was everyone for themselves. Once you get in, you don't get out.

I don't mind people for nagging on me for complaining about our President. But we can't be policing the entire world right now in a crisis like this. The Iraqi soldiers have to fend for themselves. Our intial mission was to get Sadaam out of power. Now that he's out of power we can't keep coming up with new missions just to stay in the country. We have alot of soldiers over there, probably over 200,000(i don't know). It sounds like the director of Homeland security is gonna call upon the U.S. military to help contain the situation down there. This scares me. Many of our troops in 2 locations, Iraq and Lousianna. What a great opportunity for another attack on our soil when we're tied up elsewhere. Us Americans can't handle this, the American economy surely can't handle this. I really think they're at a point where they just plain don't know what to do about this situation. I can't help but getting involved in it. It affects all of us in some way another.

JET
09-01-2005, 01:49 PM
Us Americans can't handle this, the American economy surely can't handle this. I really think they're at a point where they just plain don't know what to do about this situation. I can't help but getting involved in it. It affects all of us in some way another.
Speak for yourself. Some of us don't get nearly as bent out of shape about these things. You are getting wrapped up in the media drama. They make things look even worse than they are to get you to watch 24/7....just like you are. Yes, this is a huge disaster. They knew they lived below sea level, there was a huge ass hurricane coming, yet they stayed there.

It is horrible, but think about the number of people this is affecting compared to the US population. It is about .3% of the population, 80% of those left willingly, so we are at .06% of the US population that was there when the storm hit. Many of those got out after the storm hit. So the number of lives at stake aren't all that huge. Many of the people left were very poor or elderly. I will sound like an asshole for saying this, but the US economy won't miss them.

Now the real impact is what to do about all the business' that are under water and a million homeless people. Most of those people have family they will be able to stay with until they get back on their feet. The economy down there is definately going to take a blow. I am guessing New Orleans won't even be rebuilt. It was sinking before, and now that the ground it water logged, it will go even faster. Everything there is going to be shot. I say have the insurance companies rebuilt the city just up the river from where it was and start over.

AJ
09-01-2005, 02:04 PM
I agree in some terms with what Jet said about those that stayed. Frankly it's Darwin taking over. I know some coudln't, but those that said "I thought it would pass, or it didn't seem like it would be this bad" obviously didn't have a full understanding on why the rest of the CITY got out of town.

Also, and I may be a huge ass for saying this but why is the focus always on the elderly? When I think about saving people in need I think about children and your middle age'd adults with the streth and ability to continue to be a contribution and help out once they are safe. I think of saving those who will continue to be a part in building up the future for the children. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really saying they need to skip all the elders but I don't believe in passing others up to get to the elderly first. It's just a thought.

Clinton and Bush (the older one ;)) are now heading up the fundraising again as they did with help for the tsunami. Great move. Love'm or Hate'm they did their job last time. I am sure with all the chairty events coming up this weekend andin the next few weeks the US public sector will prove once again why they are the richest i the world, and not just in dollar amt terms. I work for a Billion Dollar company and we got word that they are setting up contribution funds and will nto only match but go beyond. No figure set yet from what we where told. There was also a telethon in MN last night I guess that already raise over 90k. It's just too bad 90k is just a very small % of the damage done and the help needed.

Personally if all I have to deal with is gas prices going up to continue to live a comfortable life then so be it. I can live with that, cause at least I get to live a normal life still.

Onefast99gsx
09-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I so much hope that they are blowing the entire thing out of proportion. All i know is that you have several hundred thousand people homeless, jobless, unable to buy food if they even had a home. New Orleans is large poverty area. Many of these people don't have family throughout the U.S. they can even goto. If most these people were illegal aliens i would hardly give a rats ass but most of them are legal Americans that were devastated by a storm that they didn't ask for. I don't have to watch the media or hear news reports of whats going. I can't even imagine what they are going through nor do i want to. We goto work everyday, go to lunch, go home, eat supper, watch TV, kick back, sleep comfortably, etc... These Americans have absolutely nothing left to return to. Everything they had whether value or invaluable was taken from them, in some situations- family members. Just because it didn't happen in my state and thankfully to a friend or relative of mine, it still affects me because i'm a hearted American.

Onefast99gsx
09-01-2005, 02:20 PM
Quote: (DSMSTYLE) "Personally if all I have to deal with is gas prices going up to continue to live a comfortable life then so be it. I can live with that, cause at least I get to live a normal life still."

Right on... I sat outside my house at lunch on this wonderful weathered day listening to the tv thru the window, cat walking all around me :) and i thought, "We have it pretty good right now."

JET
09-01-2005, 02:33 PM
I agree that they didn't do much to deserve it. They lived in a city that is 10 feet UNDER sea level though. Who in their right mind would suck a lake dry with pumps and then try to live there?? Granted that isn't how it happened, but it ended up being the same thing. The place is sinking anyway, let it go.

They are now talking about moving back in within 1-2 months...morons.

AJ
09-01-2005, 02:33 PM
Watching CNN right now. Today as they are trying to get people out of one hospital to another with more supplies and equipment a group of people took some sniper fire. People are litterally pinned down in some areas. My God.

dsm10sec
09-01-2005, 02:44 PM
I only have one thought. Why was nothing preventative done in the first place? We knew this was coming and Bush sat there and said Lets go to Iraq for oil instead of focussing on our homeland. I heard on AM1500 that the govt. knew it was coming and the planning for this disaster was pushed back many times, and was 10 years in the queue of shit to work on. I have family down there and it really pisses me off that we knew it would happen, but did nothing. The water pumps and piping down there have been changed or touched since the 1950s WTF is wrong with the government. Stupid ignorant fucks.

Sorry, I just needed to vent. My cousin lost his house and business, he has NOTHING except insurance, (whenever the hell the checks are going to be given out) family, and what little money he had in the bank (which by no means is enough to restart his or his family's lives).

CVD
09-01-2005, 02:48 PM
I agree with JET. Having some compassion is ok but the sky isnt falling.

If a bunch of 3rd world countries were able to handle the tsunami without falling apart I think we'll manage a hurricane.

Jebus.

CVD
09-01-2005, 02:50 PM
I only have one thought. Why was nothing preventative done in the first place? We knew this was coming and Bush sat there and said Lets go to Iraq for oil instead of focussing on our homeland. I heard on AM1500 that the govt. knew it was coming and the planning for this disaster was pushed back many times, and was 10 years in the queue of shit to work on. I have family down there and it really pisses me off that we knew it would happen, but did nothing. The water pumps and piping down there have been changed or touched since the 1950s WTF is wrong with the government. Stupid ignorant fucks.

Sorry, I just needed to vent. My cousin lost his house and business, he has NOTHING except insurance, (whenever the hell the checks are going to be given out) family, and what little money he had in the bank (which by no means is enough to restart his or his family's lives).
You know what pisses me off? Is that the PEOPLE down there knew it would happen and they expected the GOVERNMENT to bail their asses out!!