Study says ethanol not worth the energy

[Halon]

I'm curious about when they will have these Hydrogen powered cars.

[1ViciousGSX]

I'm curious about when they will have these Hydrogen powered cars.When they can figure out how to sell you water at $10 gallon and keep it in short supply. :cool:

[Kracka]

I'm curious about when they will have these Hydrogen powered cars.
Mainstream? Depends on who can profit from it.

[FattyBoomBatty]

When they can figure out how to sell you water at $10 gallon and keep it in short supply. :cool:

nice!

this is quite the old thread, but at least a new one wasn't started w/out a search.

[Jakey]

Ethanol has some good points, but for every good thing it does, there is a negative side.

I realize ethanol has some downfalls but just curious Mike, anything in particular that you're referring to here?

[Kracka]

I realize ethanol has some downfalls but just curious Mike, anything in particular that you're referring to here?
I'll chime is and state its costing taxpayers a fortune, provides less power/gallon, and harms engines (small engines especially).

[Jakey]

costing taxpayers a fortune

How so?

[Kracka]

How so?
Subsidies to farmers and increased cost of gasoline.

[FattyBoomBatty]

well, in reality, today, it requires slightly less energy to produce a gallon than the energy coming out of it, so it's better these days.

but the method for extracting the ethenol uses petroleum, IIRC. double edged sword.

[Jakey]

Subsidies to farmers and increased cost of gasoline.

What do subsidies based on commodity prices have to do with the ethanol industry costing taxpayers money? How has the ethanol industry caused an increase in the cost of gasoline?