20G vs 50-trim

[sleepydsm]

I've heard a lot of different opinions, and I want to hear more! What would be a better turbo on a stock bottom end 6-bolt for making supreme pump gas power? I've heard the 50-trim is more difficult to tune, and the 20g makes more real world power than most 50-trims (This all isn't fact, just some things I've heard).

[A//// Guy]

Depends on what you want to do. If your buying used stuff and either one is a good deal then it doesnt really matter. Personally if I were going to buy a brand new turbo out of those 2, get the 50 trim. Used is the only thing I would question- if I found a decent 20g I would take it for the right price, if I found a decent 50 trim I would also take that. It just depends on what is out there locally or if you want to buy brand new.

[JET]

If buying used I would go with a 20g (TD06 if possible) if I were buying new I would get the 50 trim. Both are great turbo's, but the 50 trim is a bit bigger and a tad more efficient. I think the 20g wins in reliability though.

[scheides]

I agree with JET, especially when buying used. I personally bought a used HRS Super20g that made it's way through 4-5 other people on this board, making me the 5th or 6th owner. It pulled like hell, did not smoke or burn oil, and had almost zero shaft play.

[Alpine TSi]

Gotta love water cooling in addition to oiling. Mitsu turbos all the way. When I go bigger I am going with an FP Green, the perfect combo of the fiddy trim and 20G.

[sleepydsm]

Thanks, thats a lot of info for me to consider. Generally speaking, what would be an average price for a used 20g/50-trim in Good condition (not Excellent)?

[Kracka]

I bought my used 20G for $400, got it ported, then sold it for $450 after using it on my car. It was then sold again for $450 I believe (EclipseTurbo has it now). I'd take the 20G over a 50-trim w/o question.

[tpunx99GSX]

Funny how the turbos kinda get tossed around this site, I know the turbo has been on like 4 different cars on this site. I think.

[JET]

My old 50 trim got tossed around to at least 4 people on the site too. Ported PTE 50 trim with internal gate that was going for about $500. A turbo is one thing I will not buy used unless I know the person and history of the turbo.

[john]

used-20g -Proven to make reliable power and the turbos last longer than the cars.
new-PTE50 -Cheaper and can make more power. I had a tougher time tuning my car
than my brothers on the 20g though... My car would knock a lot. I think CVD
had problems a while back also. I couldn't get 17psi on pump.