High Knock in my Talon

[Halon]

It's just not on the cam gears. I marked the belt and cams so I know where they line up. The rest of the timing belt is still ran throughout. But it's not on the cams. I need to loosen up the tension to slip it over the cam gears

[Halon]

No not totally off. It's still ran throught all the pulleys, just not on the cam gears. I marked the belt and the gears so I know where they are supposed to be lined up at, but I need to loosen up the tension so I can slip it up over the cam gears. So I need the tool. Where is the best place to pick one up at? The dealer I'm assuming?

[TheBlizzard]

I would have got the tool first. Hopefully the belt didn't slip on the crank pulley. I don't trust leaving the belt on and doing it that way anymore. Every time I have done that its been a tooth off and I have to redo it anyway.

I got pretty fast at doing it so I just put the tensioner tool in and then remove the whole belt. Then just put it back on and line everything up and remove the tensioner tool. Then rotate the motor 6 times until the dowl pins are at the top and make sure everything is perfect.

I don't think its saves much time leaving the belt on if you are quick at lining shit up.

Jet and Nash have one of those tools if they can find it.

[Jakey]

Just thinking back, what ended up curing Barton's knock troubles? Didn't Vassil also have knock troubles a while back? Anyone know what cured his car?

[A//// Guy]

Yea Brandon you might not want to take the chance of letting the timing belt get loose and misalign itself on the crank pulley. I would make sure everything is lined up, just pop the timing covers off and take a look.

If you timing was off a couple of teeth in the first place, that could be the cause of your knock. I was getting lots of knock when my timing belt skipped a couple teeth, but then again I could hear audible knock after a bit of driving like that- eek.

[Halon]

Ya, the tool goes in nice and quick when I use my air socket. When I used to use a ratchet, there was so little room in there so it'd take me 15 minutes at times until I got that damn thing in there. But with the air socket, takes a good 45 seconds! You're probably right, I will line it all up again to be safe. But either way I need this tool. I'll give Jet a ring!

[Halon]

OK well after spending what seemed like all day, I finally found this freakin timing tensioner tool. In case anyone needs to know for the future, this tool is made by Miller Tools. No store locally could find anything with a part number MD998738 which is the part number all the DSM sites tell you. I ended up finding a site http://www.spxmiller.com/
and calling them, and they have it. So it's on order and I'll get it in the mail someday. I'm suprised nobody on here had one that I could borrow for 2 hours though. Oh well, now I'll have my own.

[niterydr]

SPX is the same as OTC, they are based out of Owatonna.
I totally missed this thread, I could have gotton you the part number for both tools, as we have 2 sets in the shop. (threaded rod and tensioner tool x 2)
Good luck.

[Halon]

Yes but that number is no where in the OTC catalog apparently. I did dig around, and found some OTC number 6001 which was supposed to be the same as the miller one, but nobody could get that either. I tried Autozone, Checker, 2 different Napas, nobody could help me. They even called the company directly (so they say) and couldn't get any answers. But whatever, it'll be here next week now or something. I'm taking out my timing belt right now and going to just throw a new one in now while i got this shit apart.

[Halon]

Well I got it all done today. Started her up, and it was ticking a lot which I expected because I just cleaned the lifters so they aren't full of oil yet. I heard that the ticking should eventually go away, well after letting it idle for 20 minutes, then taking it on a 10 minute drive, it's still ticking quite a bit. So I just said fuck it and just bought a set of the revised 3mm hole lifters. I'm going to see if I can put these in without removing the cams, cuz I really don't want to do it all over again.

But I put in a new timing belt, so I suppose that's a positive!!!