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niterydr
12-11-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by me612@Dec 10 2003, 07:34 PM
hey sorry for the confusion. i have a damn near stock 1g. i was PLANNING on throwing in 2g pistons, but haven't got to it yet, still got 1g pistons in there. I guess i know the pistons had some build up on em when i swapped heads, but i didn't think that much. Could it be possible that the head i put in was shaved a few too many times? could it just be build up? Once i get some time, ill do the MCCC cleaning and see if i get some different numbers. But i still can't tell u if the smoke is white or white with a blue tint. I honestly cant tell the difference unless maybe i seen them both side by side. but if it was the head gasket, wouldn't i be getting bad compression sumwhere? this problem is kinda annoying. Cuz i don't wanna buy a whole new turbo and manifold and O2 housing and ss feedlines and whatever else i decide to get along with the turbo if its not even gunna fix the problem. Cuz i still got christmas presents to buy! anywho anyone know any other checks i could do or anything cuz im kinda stuck on where to go here. thanx
clean the cylinders, and make sure your testing correctly. Machine shops should tell you if its out of spec, and even with the head being out of spec height wise, your compression still shouldn't be that high, unless the car is perfect. So cleaning is #1+ making sure your testing correctly.
White smoke indicates cold startup/ coolent in the exhaust stream, most commonly headgasket, sometimes other coolent leaks. Meanwhile bluish smoke is oil, it almost sounds like the turbo took a shit. Check it for end play, if it moves alot, then odds are the center section is toast. What headgasket did you use? Whats weird is the carbon buildup shouldn't be present if napa cleaned the head the way they were suspose to....

Halon
12-11-2003, 11:58 AM
hahaha, ok it sounds like i confused people a lot here, sorry i guess im not the best at wording things. But the head on the car right now is NOT the one napa cleaned and checked and replaced the seals. that head is sitting here. The head on the car right now is just some used one i got off the trader. I used a stock headgasket i got from a mitsu dealer(not the metal one). I used ARP's torqued at 90. I just talked to one of my buddies, he has a spare 14b he's gunna give me. So imma pop that thing in there and see if it fixes it. If it doesn't then i guess ill go after the headgasket even tho my compression numbers don't say to go there. Plus if i swap in a new headgasket, then it just gives me a chance to throw in my other refurbished head that's sitting here from napa. And ill prolly just sell the used head on the trader or sumthin. well thanx for responces, ill let u know how it turns out. Also i still have no clue what color the smoke is, cuz honestly white or white/blue look pretty much the same to me so i really dunno. but again, thanx.

john
12-12-2003, 12:30 AM
Gauges read different numbers and are not always 100% accurate. I would try MCCC first. Follow the vfaq. I did it myself and it helped alot on my phantom knock. Then recheck compression. Make sure your car is really warmed up. Go out and beat it for a few minutes. I did a compression test on my car at elite on the dynofest and got 180-180-170-170. Then I took my car home, beat on it a bit to warm it up. I used a snap on gauge from my work instead of elites and got 160-160-155-150. I wouldn't just start pulling everything apart until you know the problem. Check the coolant and oil levels. That may hint to what the problem is also.

Halon
12-12-2003, 07:13 AM
the fluid levels are fine. I stopped driving the car ever since it started smoking. i did the compression test after my 15 minute drive home from work. but the car was sitting there for maybe 20-30 minutes after i got back before i did the test. anywho i still plan on doing the mccc cleaning. and dropping in a turbo isn't too tuff so imma just do that too. anywho i gotta go to work. latez