View Full Version : Drop the freaking wrench already!
Building engines is your business.
Every business has their secrets... but also some businesses don't have morals and are greedy.
You informing us on your secrets proves what part of the small % of the businessses you fit in.
Raptor
05-19-2005, 02:15 PM
I appreciate the comments E. I am actually more concerned that if people are going to do this, that they do it correctly. The "secrets" that matter for making more power and doing things at a higher level, still get reserved for customers. I really don't do "stock" rebuilds so me helping people with understanding the correct methods and what they should and shouldn't do and why won't effect my business in a negative way at all. I want to give to the community, but at the same time, there has to be a good reason why people bring their stuff to me, if I told everyone what I do or all I know, they would have no reason other than my overly careful practices. Regardless of what past employees and friends have seen over the last couple years, I only let them see what I want them to see, I keep the stuff I don't want to share pretty much to myself. There has been nobody up to this point that has utilized all the little tricks I know, there are a few in the very near future that have agreed and are willing. BTW, the options are only thrown out there for consumption after I find out what the goals the customer is after. Some stuff, if it isn't needed to reach the goals they set, just isn't brought up. They are all overbuilt anyway ;)
Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-20-2005, 04:08 PM
LMAO! ARP moly as lube. What could be better?!? Gotta love the newbies. I have done some pretty stupid things before but damn, how can you be that stupid? This isnt small engines class in highschool anymore where your messing with $50 motors. Some people need to get a clue!
Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).
I barely passed small engines myself, and no the briggs didnt ever run!! haha, thats why I pay mike to build my engine ;)
Matt D.
05-20-2005, 06:45 PM
Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).
Last I checked one right plus one wrong doesn't equal two rights. Congratulations that the ARPs were installed correctly. Get off your horse.
Swifty1638
05-20-2005, 07:00 PM
..good thing you built my motor, huh raptor? I think it's overkill at the moment though..I think a bigger fmic, turbo and injectors are in order..
-A. Swift
Raptor
05-20-2005, 07:11 PM
Overkill is good isn't it ;) Much less in life to worry about.
Swifty1638
05-20-2005, 07:16 PM
..very true..I just gotta fix the oil leaks, and fix the exhaust, and wait for that fuel rail, then tap the exhaust mani for the egt probe..arg..projects these days..lol
-A. Swift
FattyBoomBatty
05-20-2005, 10:16 PM
OVRKILL
pretty good liscence plate!
my engine is so frickin bulletproof. :|
EclipseGST
05-21-2005, 02:33 AM
Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).
I barely passed small engines myself, and no the briggs didnt ever run!! haha, thats why I pay mike to build my engine ;)
I am looking at the little piece of paper that comes in the ARP box...
First off, it says: Use ARP moly whenever possible... So considering its possible to use it in the block threads, I used it.
Second: Since most studs extend into the water jacket, coat threads with oil or ARP moly lubricant and screw in hand tight ONLY. NOTE: If permanent mounting is preferred, Loc-tite may be used, You may also use high temperature RTV silicon. Whatever product is used, it is imperative that the cylinder head is installed and torqued to the proper level. Install the gasket and head, then lubricate washers and nuts with oil or ARP moly prior to their installation.
Thats what it says on the little piece of paper that I just pulled out of a brand new box of ARP studs.
Like I said... I am not perfect, I dont know everything and I have done some stupid things before. Shit I do stupid things all the time. So if they are saying to install them wrong then I guess I am a fool for following directions and also doing what they taught me in school (Tech). I dont remember you being around much when I was puting YOUR motor in YOUR car. Oh wait you were sleeping, thats right! When you knew I was doing all the work for free to help a fellow DSMer out who needed to get his car running. Then you got pissed at me cause I couldnt make it up one weekend and you really wanted your car done. Then when I got the car running, what happened? You stopped talking to me... Never called anymore, wouldnt return calls, not even a Thank you. You did help me get that turbo from Peter (Eclipseturbo I believe it is) which I appreaciate very much since I was in pretty much despirate need of a turbo. But it seems as if you just were going to use me and didnt give a fuck about anything once your car was running. You must be too good for me, sorry I am not a professional engine builder and I was the cause of your motor going to shit. Also, I would like to know how that affected your motor? What did it do to it? Cause I guess I cant do it right, might as well learn from it.
Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-21-2005, 12:13 PM
I am looking at the little piece of paper that comes in the ARP box...
First off, it says: Use ARP moly whenever possible... So considering its possible to use it in the block threads, I used it.
Second: Since most studs extend into the water jacket, coat threads with oil or ARP moly lubricant and screw in hand tight ONLY. NOTE: If permanent mounting is preferred, Loc-tite may be used, You may also use high temperature RTV silicon. Whatever product is used, it is imperative that the cylinder head is installed and torqued to the proper level. Install the gasket and head, then lubricate washers and nuts with oil or ARP moly prior to their installation.
Thats what it says on the little piece of paper that I just pulled out of a brand new box of ARP studs.
Like I said... I am not perfect, I dont know everything and I have done some stupid things before. Shit I do stupid things all the time. So if they are saying to install them wrong then I guess I am a fool for following directions and also doing what they taught me in school (Tech). I dont remember you being around much when I was puting YOUR motor in YOUR car. Oh wait you were sleeping, thats right! When you knew I was doing all the work for free to help a fellow DSMer out who needed to get his car running. Then you got pissed at me cause I couldnt make it up one weekend and you really wanted your car done. Then when I got the car running, what happened? You stopped talking to me... Never called anymore, wouldnt return calls, not even a Thank you. You did help me get that turbo from Peter (Eclipseturbo I believe it is) which I appreaciate very much since I was in pretty much despirate need of a turbo. But it seems as if you just were going to use me and didnt give a fuck about anything once your car was running. You must be too good for me, sorry I am not a professional engine builder and I was the cause of your motor going to shit. Also, I would like to know how that affected your motor? What did it do to it? Cause I guess I cant do it right, might as well learn from it.
Sounds like you took that to heart jakey :) Too bad I was just screwin around. Its not like putting the moly lube there is bad, it just doesnt do anything lol. And since you love to give me shit I decided to give you some. And for the record, i still talk to your ass lol. And you werent the reason the engine went to shit! It was from sitting too long and the cylinder walls were pretty fucked ;) You need to calm down. I thought your original post was funny.. that was where this came from.
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