To Tube, or not to Tube..

[AJ]

#1, please use a better way to structure your questions and actual grade level of posting. ESPECIALLY in all tech areas. Like I had said in the PM.

#2, as long as you have a T25 you don't need to worry anything about a different manifold. Adding to that is the fact that the stock 2G manifold can do wonders with a little porting as well. Outlandish manifolds aren't for everyone, and the money could and should be spent elsewhere.

[GODspeed1320]

ok..im sorry again but i stil want to know what you think of that one

[Jakey]

Why not go with a proven brand if you are so set on a tubular manifold? Try Full Race or Alien Auto. There's a couple others but I can't think of them off hand.

By the way, nice job of fixing your grammar and punction after explicitly being asked to by the site Owner.

[JET]

Since when are Alien Auto and Full Race proven manifolds? Did I miss something? For durability the SFP is probably the best on the market right now. Still nothing like a cast one though. Why even "upgrade" though? The stock manifold has pushed over 600 whp. If you want to upgrade, go with a larger cast manifold.

[Raptor]

I am highly going to dissagree on the SFP one at the moment, I fixed a few in a row for the same guy, including the ones they sent him for replacement, the welding was pretty sad. There were other issues with the fabrication, but I would be hard pressed to believe that was the best on the market for durability.

[Jakey]

Since when are Alien Auto and Full Race proven manifolds? Did I miss something? For durability the SFP is probably the best on the market right now. Still nothing like a cast one though. Why even "upgrade" though? The stock manifold has pushed over 600 whp. If you want to upgrade, go with a larger cast manifold.

I apologize, let me rephrase. They are the only tubular manifolds in which I have never heard of having cracking issues. Talk to Colin Receveur (turbo2Liter) on NABR and Toonerz, I am 99% sure he running a Full Race manifold with his T4 (I think that's what it is at least). I believe a few guys have had their DNP Manifolds Jet Hot coated fresh from the factory and have a seen a virtual elimination in cracking issues (as long as it was acceptably made from the factory of course). However, I can't provide a link to any testimonials about that because I can't even remember where the hell I read that back when. I could also be completely off base but just trying to provide some input.

Also, even though I don't have personal experience of course, I have read of a number of people having cracking issues with the SFP manifold.

[JET]

I agree the SFP isn't that great either Mike. Some have lasted decently, but I am sure their quality has gone down hill. They are mild steel too, so it is only a matter of time before they fatigue.

I plan on having something on the market this fall/winter, but I need a stress relief oven first. I am going to make mine right, I haven't seen one on the market yet that does it correctly (for a DSM).

Much better Jakey, I just don't want to see people misled by vague statements. There are some people on here that don't know any better.

[GODspeed1320]

Why not go with a proven brand if you are so set on a tubular manifold? Try Full Race or Alien Auto. There's a couple others but I can't think of them off hand.

By the way, nice job of fixing your grammar and punction after explicitly being asked to by the site Owner.

haha. suck up.

[Jakey]

There are some people on here that don't know any better.

Unfortunately, yes.

[GODspeed1320]

dude its just a typo ok. im sorry. it wont happen again.