1G Auto to Manual Swap

[wohlfman]

What can I use off of a 93 AWD laser 5 speed, to a 92 Eclipse GSX automatic.
I am putting a manual in the GSX.

[Kracka]

Well, I'd start with everything related to the manual transmission. Its a fairly big task, I'd rather swap an engine that do a AT to MT swap. Tranny, pedal assembly, shifter and shifter cables, clutch lines, clutch master and slave cylinders, etc. Also keep in mind there are engine differences between the AT and MT cars, they have different ECU's, fuel injectors, turbos, and exhaust manifolds. I'd deffinately swap all that stuff on too. Whats wrong with the Laser and why are you doing this?

[TheBlizzard]

Thread re-named and moved to advanced tech. The reason I put this is advanced tech is because he is asking about switching more than just the transmission and drivetrain.

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[Jakey]

Well, I'd start with everything related to the manual transmission. Its a fairly big task, I'd rather swap an engine that do a AT to MT swap. Tranny, pedal assembly, shifter and shifter cables, clutch lines, clutch master and slave cylinders, etc. Also keep in mind there are engine differences between the AT and MT cars, they have different ECU's, fuel injectors, turbos, and exhaust manifolds. I'd deffinately swap all that stuff on too. Whats wrong with the Laser and why are you doing this?



Mike's Laser has a salvage title and no first gear versus the GSX is spotless (from what I recall) and has a clean title. The Laser he has was posted up for sale on here last summer by it's former owner if that rings a bell.

[wohlfman]

like stated earlier the laser has a salvage title, and the GSX I have is spotless. I love working on my cars, and being in the garage. The GSX is my baby, and it could be an interesting project, and to help me learn more. Plus it keeps me out of trouble up town.

[Anduinlight]

I know he didn't do it personally but Matt R (AlpineTSI) has a 92 Talon that was AT to MT converted, and I believe he is fairly well versed in what all is involved in doing doing it.

[wohlfman]

Thank you very much.

[tpunx99GSX]

Well, I'd start with everything related to the manual transmission. Its a fairly big task, I'd rather swap an engine that do a AT to MT swap. Tranny, pedal assembly, shifter and shifter cables, clutch lines, clutch master and slave cylinders, etc. Also keep in mind there are engine differences between the AT and MT cars, they have different ECU's, fuel injectors, turbos, and exhaust manifolds. I'd deffinately swap all that stuff on too. Whats wrong with the Laser and why are you doing this?

I was looking at the VFAQ on this and its showing that you Do NOT need a new ECU, Injectors, Turbo, or Exhaust manifold.
Im looking into this because it will be done within the next month on my car. Is there any major Differences in the parts needed for a 2g?

[Kracka]

I was looking at the VFAQ on this and its showing that you Do NOT need a new ECU, Injectors, Turbo, or Exhaust manifold.
Im looking into this because it will be done within the next month on my car. Is there any major Differences in the parts needed for a 2g?

There are no differences in 2G cars, just the 1G's.

[Alpine TSi]

I was looking at the VFAQ on this and its showing that you Do NOT need a new ECU, Injectors, Turbo, or Exhaust manifold.


You could do it without the above stuff, but you would be using a smaller turbo, smaller injectors, and a worse manifold. Also the AT cams are strong in the mid RPM band, where the MT cams are strong at the high RPM band(as strong as stock cams can be).

If I were to do the swap on a 1G I wouldn't do it to stock MT parts though, I would upgrade from there(2G exh mani, 550's or bigger, 16G or bigger, EPROM ECU). To me it doesn't make sense to upgrade from AT to MT parts while doing the swap unless any of the parts were bad or you had a good line on those parts for cheap and working well.