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Super Bleeder!!
12-06-2004, 02:24 PM
DSMs are not VTEC Honda's, they don't keep making more and more power as you rev high and higher, they usually flatline not long at spooling up and eventually start falling.


why is that? is the vtec lobe have some GIGANTIC life/duration or what??

JET
12-06-2004, 04:50 PM
I mentioned building one up to Brent since he's actually got a tranny that could handle the rpms. He didn't seem interested in changing from the 2.0.


Brent actually hasn't really done any research on the newer configurations. He is having good luck with the 2.0 and wants to stick with it. I told him about the 2.14 and 2.4 stuff last year, but he wasn't too interested. He said he talked to Marco some and Marco sent him a few parts, but he didn't like them too much.

Speedfreak
12-06-2004, 06:29 PM
Please do this in a AWD... Mostly worthless in a FWD. Just buy Shane's car for 25g so he can get a 1/4 of his $ out:)

Raptor
12-06-2004, 07:27 PM
2.14 is a great design, rod clearance should be less of an issue since the crank used is shorter throw than the one the block is designed for. So Pauters should be no trouble to run. Also, Crower has no issue with selling longer rods and I personally would go that route. As far as Pistons, I am to the point where Wiseco has me a bit pissed off so I have been scouting other sources and have some pretty cool info that I will post after I can prove it. The current 2.14 that we are building is using a knife edged crank, a scraper, windage tray and the pistons that we have been looking at. Looks like a promising setup when done. The tranny and other parts are being built to handle it as well. The head is getting a lot of port work and larger valves, cams matched to the expected powerband and an upgraded ignition and intake as well as exhaust and the perfect turbo. Cam and valve spring selection is a pretty big deal with the RPM range intended. And since you asked about dry sump before, this would be the right app for it. Kevin, if you want more info on the pistons we are looking into, PM me or shoot a call and I will fill you in.

1QUICK4
12-06-2004, 08:02 PM
Sound like somebody else is building a powerhouse FWD eh Kevin?

We'll have to get together and brainstorm as your shooting for around the same power level as I am. Maybe we can get a multiple purchase discount on some FWD go-fast parts (twin-plate clutch, wheelie bars, etc.)

We're deffinatly gonna run 'em when they're done ;)

AJ
12-06-2004, 08:13 PM
I won't say who it's for but that monster Mike is talking about building is also a FWD deal. ;)

Shane@DBPerformance
12-06-2004, 08:23 PM
Curtis?

I will wave to all you FWD guys as I pass you in my low reving 2.4l street tired AWD in the next lane. :)

carltalon
12-06-2004, 08:25 PM
I know of a FEW fwd that are going to be putting down some crazy power next year.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
12-06-2004, 08:37 PM
I know of a FEW fwd that are going to be putting down some crazy power next year.

So they're going to put down over 750+ whp becuase 6-700 whp is everyone and their mom these days. :)

Shane@DBPerformance
12-06-2004, 08:48 PM
why is that? is the vtec lobe have some GIGANTIC life/duration or what??

Yep. The lift and duration on a stock GSR cam make an HKS 272 seem tiny. The stock Integra Type-R cams make Crower "Race Only" cams for DSMs look wimpy. They also have great cylinder heads with small hi velocity ports.