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sleepy2lazy
09-19-2005, 01:50 AM
CVD, i never said it was justified to shoot people in the back.

CVD
09-19-2005, 02:09 AM
So then what are you arguing? He is guilty of his charges regardless of the jury's skin color. You agree that the circumstances of the shooting prove this(he did shoot some of them in the back). So what are the "what ifs"? Nothing can change the fact that he killed in cold blood and deserves the full extent of the law, if not worse.
He admited all of this in the courtroom.

This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Zero. Racism may have sparked his anger but it has nothing to do with the punishment. He ADMITTED to everything. Even if you believed every word he said (ie they shot first etc.) he is still guilty as charged and deserves the punishment he got.

Halon
09-19-2005, 07:37 AM
Some of us DO have friends whose related to this guy. Some of us DO know this guy.

And some of us, are hmong.
Just FYI, the people who funded money, many of it was family and friends.

Total BS how people pull the "race" card all the time like this now. So what if you were the same race as him. Well I am the same race as the ones murdered. When do I get my apology from you?

But you know what, I am going to apologize to the Hmong's here in the midwest. BUT... not for the Vang incident. For having a great time with one of their Hmong wives at Myth last weekend! Me and Craig took good car of her! I love asians !

Shotgun!
09-19-2005, 09:31 AM
Total BS how people pull the "race" card all the time like this now. So what if you were the same race as him. Well I am the same race as the ones murdered. When do I get my apology from you?

But you know what, I am going to apologize to the Hmong's here in the midwest. BUT... not for the Vang incident. For having a great time with one of their Hmong wives at Myth last weekend! Me and Craig took good car of her! I love asians !

Yes! I've been waiting for a good thread hijack!

1QUICK4
09-19-2005, 02:02 PM
There are a lot of crazy people out there. There are also a lot of people with short tempers. I think he was probably leaving and there were some racial slurs yelled after him, he got mad and started shooting.

I have seen this happen first hand while hunting. Just last year my uncle shot a nice buck and by the time he tracked it down there was another hunter tagging it as his own. It went from an argument to an all out shouting match and ended with my uncle saying fuck it and walking away.

Hunting disputes get pretty heated!


Sorry if it seems like i came out harsh and what not at the beginning.. This is a heated topic. Least it is for me, so if my thoughts aren't coming out clearly, i apologize.

Understandable, I get a little amped up over this shit too. I don't mean any disrespect to his family.

Jakey
09-19-2005, 02:08 PM
I dont know about that part. But my uncle doesnt like to trespass.

Doesn't like to, as in he does? Why trespass in the first place? If the property is not yours, stay the f*ck off unless you are in pursuit of a wounded animal. We have had to throw people off of our property before for trespassing but if it ever comes to where someone will not leave, I would have absolutely no problem holding a gun in their face until the game warden shows up. I don't care if I am a redneck, no trespassing means no trespassing. As to how people can not understand that I don't know.

JET
09-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Another thing, the land must be properly marked as no tresspassing. If not it is considered public hunting grounds. It is still bad etiquette to go without permission, but like the internet, people don't always follow the etiquette rules.

I also hunt, so I understand how it gets. You get all primal and the testosterone is flowing like mad. It makes it easier for things to escalate in a hurry.

awd-drifter
09-19-2005, 02:58 PM
I'm Hmong, and this guy seems a little crazy. I hunt too, but i dont think I'll kill a guy unless they all shot at me. but hey, if there were 6 people that were "threatening" your life, wouldnt you do the same? i dunno the whole story to this thing, but i just think this guy is straight-up crazy.

1slowdsm
09-19-2005, 10:28 PM
Doesn't like to, as in he does?

Umm...okay sure. You're reading it in a whole different way than what it was. I mean that he Doesnt Trespass at ALL. Sheesh. Not trying to start anything here. But Doesnt Like to, DOESNT necessarily mean that he Does or ever did trespass. He knows better than that to trespass just for a couple of squirrels. He knows where to go and where not to go.

Jakey
11-08-2005, 09:04 PM
Life in prison with no possibility of parole for this piece of shit:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174967,00.html