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Kracka
11-23-2004, 04:41 PM
Who wants to bet NONE of this will be enforced with old muscle cars?
We stopped 2 Mustangs and an Old Firebird for racing on 280. Saint Paul's big beef with racing is the gangs and stolen parts. When was the last time an asian gang stole a 350 Small block??
Kracka
11-23-2004, 04:44 PM
How extensively will this DOT stuff be taken? Is that mainly for taillights and clear corners or what?
A//// Guy
11-23-2004, 04:50 PM
Yea are they going to crawl under my car and look for a DOT sticker on my exhaust? Or like other engine parts? Or rip apart my headlights to get to my non DOT H4 bulbs?
Kracka
11-23-2004, 05:09 PM
"Gee officer, I don't know where my cat went."
520Talon
11-23-2004, 06:46 PM
We stopped 2 Mustangs and an Old Firebird for racing on 280. Saint Paul's big beef with racing is the gangs and stolen parts. When was the last time an asian gang stole a 350 Small block??
That is the main Asian bracket!!! Don't you know. The only drive Honda/Toyota/Mitsu/Ect to throw you off of their evil plan to steal all of the 350's. Once they have them all they will bring out thier muscle cars and school every one with 4 bangers. Which will be everyone, because they will have all the 350's! I heard it already happened as close as Chicago. SO watch yourself.
tpunx99GSX
11-23-2004, 08:19 PM
Just remember boys respect your rights, dont open your hood until a search warrent is issued. and before JDM replies with "they can search if they have resonable suspicion" yes they can but they need to list each item they are looking for and if they find more they cant charge you for it, same thing if they search your car and find drugs, if they didnt state EXACTLY what they were looking for then the charges will be dismissed in a court of law.
Everytime I go to a thread about Cops, and i see that Tom is the last to reply, I think to myself everytime "This should be interesting"
DOT legal tail lights (the emblem is on the lense), DOT tint regulations, catalytic converters, Reasonable db levels for exhaust, colored bulbs (which ARE NOT legal in MN, I don't care what your "dad's buddy" said), neon, loud stereo, shit like that...
Here ya go Tom... Strait from the Horses' mouth
The fourth type of exception is the administrative searches and inspections exception. These are warrantless searches by government investigators determining whether government rules and regulations have been broken (Federal Emissions Regulations, Federal Lighting Restrictions, State and Local Environment laws, Equipment violations, Illegal or unsafe or non properly installed equipment). The police do not typically conduct these searches. However, there are stipulations with this exception such as health, SAFETY, or other inspectors may not go onto private property without either consent or a search warrant, this also applies to the search of commercial structures not used as private residences. However, searches of highly regulated businesses do not need a warrant or probable cause.
The fifth and sixth exceptions are the stop and frisk exception, and the motor vehicle exception. The stop and frisk exception must carry reasonable suspicion and the frisk cannot go beyond a pat down. The motor vehicle exception simply states when a vehicle is pulled over and the police officer has probable cause, he/she may search the vehicle, but within reason.
courtesy of:
http://www.wadsworthmedia.com/discus/messages/117/704.html?1056366288
You have the right to refuse consent, but if the officer has probable cause, the search can still be conducted, and the officers conduct and reasoning shall be decided and judged upon in court, rather than risking obstruction and resisting charges upon arrest.
Go ahead and ask me about my search warrant, and I'll give you two more pieces of paper for you to bring to your court date.
You don't win against cops by taking them head on, Tom, you win in court.
1slowdsm
11-23-2004, 10:55 PM
I would've still lost in court...but it was my word against her word and my chances were "small" because she was a cop and I am just a teenager. So I took the one-year probation, which kinda sucks. Oh yeah...JDM, if I took that one-year probation deal...is my traffic violation on my record as of right now? (I'm still a little angry at that cop lady, she told me one thing...but didnt write it down on her sheet and then she changed her story. Why dont they make us write down our side of the story at the time we get pulled over? That way, the story cant be so easily changed.)
Sorry, this has gone waaayyyy off the topic. If you want to start another new topic about cops/laws, go for it. This one's being closed down before it gets to out of hand. Sorry.
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