engine 99% pulled, need help

[intendedacceleration]

Started the removal process for pulling in the engine in my 92 laser RS awd last night. Worst mistake of the night was deciding to try to seperate the tranny from the engine while still in the car, instead of pulling them together. Well we finally got all the bell housing bolts out, man some of those were a bitch. We have the tranny seperated from the engine about a 1/2" but I'll be damned if we can't get it to go any more. Is there something we are missing? The engine is completely free with the exception of the being connected to the tranny still by some unseen force. About 2am this morning we finally gave up on it for the day. Any pointers?

[ABV]

Are you attempting to leave the tranny in the car while you pull the motor? Or are you trying to pull the tranny out first, and then pull the motor? It's been a while since I've worked on a DSM, but I do remember that trying to maneuver the tranny around is a bitch. I would just push the tranny back in, put a few of the bolts back in the tranny, and yank the whole thing.

[intendedacceleration]

Are you attempting to leave the tranny in the car while you pull the motor? Or are you trying to pull the tranny out first, and then pull the motor? It's been a while since I've worked on a DSM, but I do remember that trying to maneuver the tranny around is a bitch. I would just push the tranny back in, put a few of the bolts back in the tranny, and yank the whole thing.

We are trying to leave the tranny in the car, and pull the block. The whole idea was to avoid having to pull the axles and all the crap associated with that, but it's looking like maybe that will be the only workable option. How the hell do they do clutch jobs on these cars without pulling the engine? It must be possible.

[SlowWhite]

It is possible you leave the motor and drop the tranny.

And I hope I just read your post wrong.. And that the Bell housing is still attached the tranny not the motor correct?

Anyways What are you trying to do? Pull the motor or Drop the Tranny?

I'm with Rockford on this one, Just bolt the Tranny back to the motor and pull them out together.

I just pulled mine last night. and ya don't forget to pull the radiator out. I have to probably get a new one. Or hope to god there is enough left on the upper Radiator hose part to attach the hose to it... (I don't know how I didn't remember to pull that thing I guess I was just focused on otherthings that were going on) Oh well hopefully in a few months a fluidyne will be in the works.

-Also I don't see how you could possbily pull the motor while leaving the tranny in place? The Shaft that goes through the Clutch would prevent you from being able to pull up with it... maybe if you were able to drop the motor throught the bottom you'd be able to. But I'm sure if this is just a Jack Stand situation the height Clearnace won't be enough.

-brian

[ABV]

If I remember right, 1g's have one transmission mount, and 3 engine mounts. If you left only the tranny in there it would be hanging down at an angle anyway. I would just reattach the tranny, pull the axels and T-case, and then pull the motor. With as much trouble as you would have pulling the motor, while leaving the tranny in the car, it will be twice as bad putting the motor back in.

[intendedacceleration]

It is possible you leave the motor and drop the tranny.

And I hope I just read your post wrong.. And that the Bell housing is still attached the tranny not the motor correct?

Anyways What are you trying to do? Pull the motor or Drop the Tranny?

I'm with Rockford on this one, Just bolt the Tranny back to the motor and pull them out together.

I just pulled mine last night. and ya don't forget to pull the radiator out. I have to probably get a new one. Or hope to god there is enough left on the upper Radiator hose part to attach the hose to it... (I don't know how I didn't remember to pull that thing I guess I was just focused on otherthings that were going on) Oh well hopefully in a few months a fluidyne will be in the works.

-Also I don't see how you could possbily pull the motor while leaving the tranny in place? The Shaft that goes through the Clutch would prevent you from being able to pull up with it... maybe if you were able to drop the motor throught the bottom you'd be able to. But I'm sure if this is just a Jack Stand situation the height Clearnace won't be enough.

-brian


We are trying to pull the block and leave the tranny. You are correct that the bell housing is disconnected from the block not from the tranny. The radiator is out already.

[intendedacceleration]

If I remember right, 1g's have one transmission mount, and 3 engine mounts. If you left only the tranny in there it would be hanging down at an angle anyway. I would just reattach the tranny, pull the axels and T-case, and then pull the motor. With as much trouble as you would have pulling the motor, while leaving the tranny in the car, it will be twice as bad putting the motor back in.

Yeah good point about putting it back in. Guess it will be best to put back in a couple bell housing bolts and pull it as a unit. How many do you think would be a safe # to put in to support the thing enough to pull it?

Forgot to add that the transfer case is already off as well.

[SlowWhite]

As long as you have the Guide Pins you should be ok with just 2-3.. (the more the better, but that's up to you.. I've used 2 before with no problems but that was with the engine supported only holding the weight of the tranny, not the other way around.

[niterydr]

Pull them out together.
It takes 5 minutes to unbolt the tranny from the block when its out of the car, and another 5 minutes to put it back on.

[Enes]

make sure you have the back bolt removed, all except one bolt is from the passengers side, but there is one in the back by the back engine mount, that connects from the drivers side.. don't forget that one..

-E