Farhrenheit 911

[Jakey]

I would love to read the tax laws that the KKK (Krooked Kerry Koalition) is basing half of their tax related advertisments on.

[LightningGSX]

Kerry did "negotiate" with the enemy during Vietnam.I do have a source, his own testimony to the senate foreign relations commity in the 70's.Anyway that happens to be against the law, and compromising with communists(during a war where americans are dying) is considered treason in my book.He also, in a press conference a year later, openly avocated the "North Vietnamese peace plan"(which was basically a U.S. surrender agreement) and recommended Nixon adopt the plan.Yep, Kerry is a model american.

[Goat Blower]

Yep, a traitor for a presidential nominate and a draft-dodger for a former president. Way to go democratic party. :headache:

[JET]

Not to mention that Kerry threw his medals over the white house fence while he was still a Navy officer!!

That and getting 3 purple hearts in 4 1/2 months of being at war is pretty crazy (the last 2 were self inflicted). After 3 purple hearts you get to go back home, think that wasn't planned? I don't want a spineless wimp running our country. Bush may not do everything right, but at least he has balls and makes a stand.

[Kougar]

AH what the hell, might as well jump into the fire...

That's just the problem with Bush. He jumps into crap, is too "gung-ho" in his policies. Iraq posed no immediate, if any, threat. Who the hell would put their own countrymen into a situation where they can die? Plus, not to mention a large majority of the world is not happy with the US anymore due to Bush. This international cowboy act is starting to piss people off. Granted, not everyone liked the US before Bush, but I think it's safe to say after he came into office, it all got worse. Hell, even the UK citizens don't really like their head honcho due to his backing of our pres. Spread the love...spread the love.

Don't get me wrong, I may come off as pro-Kerry. I don't classify myself as either democrat or republican, i just think Bush is an idiot who is too forceful of a president, while Kerry has alot of shady sides to him as well. Honestly, I don't like either candidates, which is sad cause now i don't think i'll vote. I refuse to vote for Kerry just to get Bush out, and Bush sure as hell ain't gettin a check in his box...and the independents/green party are just leeches from the main parties.

[A//// Guy]

Originally posted by Kougar@Sep 10 2004, 08:42 PM
Granted, not everyone liked the US before Bush, but I think it's safe to say after he came into office, it all got worse.
Not safe to say that at all.

Sure it got worse because right after he became president we got attacked.... :headache:

After a long down in our economy due to people having safety issues and not buying anything since 9/11 we are finally getting back up and running.

Our economy is going up, has any one ever been to the govt website and looked at the employment rates from the past 10 years? It is really interesting to see.

Go ahead look: http://stats.bls.gov/cps/home.htm#tables

Sure unemployment went up right at 2002 but gee I wonder why- 9/11. Now its holding steady with what it was 3 years ago and it only dipped during Clintons era becuase he didnt have anything to worry about, no planes crashing into building or wars going on. Just the easy life thats why the economy did so well in the 90s.

:blah: fricken :blah:

[Kougar]

That's not what im talking about. The economy is a different issue from what i'm adressing here. What I mean, is anti-americanism has gone up since bush took office. Mainly Iraq and his policy over there. The way I see it, Bush's actions post 9/11...maybe even post afghanistan, have spreaded anti-americanism all over the damn place. Last time i checked Germany was pretty good with us before bush, as was france, and the rest of europe. Plus the entire middle east was just kinda 'whatever', now it's more like 'die america'. Lovely.

Plus he's still a moron...I won't ever feel comfortable with a moron as our leader of the free world...

[A//// Guy]

If Bush is a "moron" then Kerry must be a super- retard.

Germany and France can suck it.

Theres always going to be someone who doesnt like the US. Whether its becuase we started a war, or we didnt help win one. We cant win all the time so we do our best. And he wasnt hated by everyone until he decided to attack Iraq without the UN and other countries approval.

[illz]

i love people that equate akward public speaking with being a moron. i know and have known many geniuses who would be frozen in their tracks stuck before a classroom to speak, much less the world.

look at his education. look at his wealth. look at his position. sorry, not a moron. and don't give me that shit about "his family got him where he is". well, that would mean his family is smart. smart people aren't going to elevate or have the ability to elevate an idiot to represent them.

[Kougar]

...I truly hope you're not calling Bush a genius based on the fact he can't speak properly in public...what a damn joke.

I will admit I don't know all that much about either candidate, so I won't get that involved with details, but Bush will never go down in history as being one of the more intelligent presidents.

And how is the family angle shit? With a background so incredibly involved with politics how the hell wouldn't they have an influence on how he got there? His family history by itself is enough to negate the fact that he's where he is soley under his own power.

His wealth is from his prior oil companies and ties with other people. Once again, a vast majority of this, at least the OPERTUNITIES to do so, were basically given to him.

I'm not pro-kerry, remember that. I'm just anti-bush and (to this point) neutral to kerry. I could care less about kerry's inteligence, I said before that neither of them are very good candidates.

Germany and france can suck it eh? There's that stupid cowboy gung-ho WE CAN TAKE ON THE WORLD BY OURSELVES bullshit that is fucking up our ties with other countries, our worldy image, and our status as 'good guys' compared with terrorists ourselves. Once again, by doing this, we're simply spreading anti-americanism across the damn globe. PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE WAR. You can't argue that. And OBVIOSULLY people will hate him when he does something without the approval of the UN. The whole point of the UN is a global team basically, and if one part of that team goes off and does everything opposite of what they are 'supposed to do', then people will see that in a negative light.

God politics make me mad :headache: