Suprised This Hasn't Come Up Yet...

[Enes]

I would vote for myself.. and i would lover DSM car insurance as my second thing in the office!

-e

[JET]

Jeezus Tom, you have been in Cali, what a month? And you have already turned into a liberal pussy! Educate yourself on politics a little more before you go spouting off crap next time.

[Jakey]

I'm voting for Bush simply because, as CVD put it, Kerry running this country is very frightening.

Here is a very interesting video about Kerry: http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/vietnam.htm


...and also a very good site about Kerry: http://www.kerrylied.com/

[AJ]

I think Mark should be a president.

[glempo]

Originally posted by me612@Aug 9 2004, 05:24 AM
help them construct a better, more civil, and FREE government, and then give them back control. Isn't that what happened? Not only that, but in the , and now we have managed to contain China very well. We have become closer alies with India, Mongolia, and have bases and troops in each. Now we have bases in Iraq and Afghanistan with troops there as well. Countless numbers of troops in Japan. We're close enough to touch them if they ever even tried to flex their muscels at us. Not saying they want to start beef now, but who knows what the future may hold. I think Bush has managed to make our country much safer then it was in the past. We are also much more dedicated in a fight against terrorism then ever before. We managed to take over the capital in what, a month? Can you imagine the look on the faces of leaders of North Korea (or any other government in the world) watching the news, showing how quickly we advanced into that contry and how short of time it was until we were in control of the capital. Did you think nobody was going to die or sumthin? Innocent Iraqis and US citizens wouldn't die? It's war, people get blown up. It's the nature of the beast. And the military says to us troops, Don't die for your country, make them die for theirs. And I think we did just that. Bush is definately not a disgrace to this country I'd say.
This is crap... I usually like what you say dude but this is BS. I know im not gonna change your mind or anything. But i personally dont see how taking over a country and forcing our ways, and ideals is freeing a country. "here ya go guys...we killed the crazy leader guy, left you with no government. And now were gonna set up a government like ours and all will be good!" Or hey lets a have a military precence in any country we can.. thats crap. Wed never let another country do that to us...

We as americans are arrogant, self centered, and oblivious to how the world works.. most americans think the world likes us. And thats just not the case. I personally am not only ashamed of our president, but at what our "great nation" has become. Were like 1940s Germany without the killin of inoccent people.

I personally will be leavin this country as soon as its possible.

the only reason i would vote for Kerry is to keep bush out of the office.. i wouldnt vote for him normally, but i think bush is a monkey puppet

[CVD]

Not everything the US does is right. And not everything the US does is done correctly. But sometimes things need to be done. Some people seem to think that since we are stronger than everyone else, it is wrong of us to interfere, or to use our strength to force others to do things.

When things like genocide and massacreing of innocents happens, we should just sit on our thumbs right? When a people asks for help we should just stay home, because hey, we wouldnt want to step on anyones toes.

[JET]

Originally posted by glempo@Aug 9 2004, 12:25 PM
I personally will be leavin this country as soon as its possible.

I wish more people with your views would take the same actions!

I see both of you points and agree with some of both of them. I agree more with me612, although it is a little closed minded. We shouldn't be forcing capitalism on another country, but the terrorist backing lunatic that was in there had to be taken out. We couldn't leave them with no government, so we put in one like ours, since obviously we think this is the best kind. I don't think there was a lot of alternative there.

[tpunx99GSX]

well you republicans lost some of the hope of salvaging an election, nader is out so you now know where those votes are going, straight to kerry. hell that is one of the reasons gore is not the president. its actually funny because the republican party was fighting feriously to get more votes for nader so he could be on the ballot. whats really sad about that situation is that they feel that their own president is not strong enough to win in a heads up fight.

Jet, Im not spouting off crap, its just that you are so close minded that you dont see the whole picture. We are HATED by the allies that stood by us years ago. we went into a country without the approval of the UN council, we are lucky that the UN hasnt invaded us for being traitors. lets not think of it as a hitler US, that would be wrong, hitler just tried to take over europe, FUCK People bush is trying to take over the PLANET. tell me, what business do we have in germany, or china, or japan, these are our allies. the saudis want nothing to do with us, and they helped us in desert storm.
The bush family is weak, they tried 12 years ago to get saddam for oil and didnt get him then.
"There is zero profit potential for Bush from Iraq."
Complete and utter BULL SHIT.
"I don't see(even in the least little bit) how Bush is "conquering" Iraq."
The attack patterns and how they were Initiated were that of a country taking over another country. "Shock and Awe" yeah we are shocked at the fact that he went against all of our allies, shock that we put a president with the IQ less then that of his age in office, awe of the horrific acts that our government has accomplished.
"Christian morals run alot deeping than Bush in our government."
The Christian right has been trying to take over the government for years upon years. and yes it is the christians that are trying to ban stem cell research. SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. its what made this land great and i forsee a future with bush ending this nation and ending the live of many more to come. and to not even attend the bringing back of american bodies that have perished because of his horrible war is a disgrace.
Im sick of watching a man that has no idea what is going on, lead our country.
Tom

[Raptor]

Bush because he does have the balls to get things done. The man has been put a test that very few others would have had any success with and of course there will be a bunch of dumbasses whining that they could have done better or that he was wrong by his actions. In the end, the proper outcome has happened and the battle is ongoing, let the right leader fight it.

As far as tom to be more of a liberal pussy since he moved to CA, I have to dissagree with that. He has always been a liberal pussy with unrealistic viewpoints. He has always opened his mouth and proved his lack of intelligence and most interestingly, he talks about Bush not being ethical or completely truthful thoughout his campaign, that is something that is subject to speculation and also should be questioned by someone standing on firmer ground with there own ethics.

[tpunx99GSX]

and no ME612 I dont take all of my info from the news, I take it from people that were actually stationed in Iraq, Air Force intellegence that are controlling the nukes at minot, believe me, my words come with a great deal of backing. My uncles were all in some form of military.
i have talked with people useing an unbias mind and learned things that would amaze you and shock you into saying get this fucking guy out of here.
It is all truth.
Tom