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Alpine TSi
07-12-2004, 11:09 PM
I was just wondering if any of you that have either done the 4G64 swap or are doing it could answer some questions:

What has to be modified on the vehicle to accept this block?

What has to be done to my current bolt ons to work with it?

What has to be done to my head(1g 6bolt)?

Does anything electrical(ecu, etc) need to be changed?

What vehicles(specific years and models, 6 bolt only) use this block?

Where are they being found(locally, shipped, etc.)?

About how much are a good block and crank going for(on average)?

Is there anything else one would need to know about doing this swap?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Maybe when someone gets done they should write some kind of a tech article on this, so these questions don't come up again.

Matt D.
07-12-2004, 11:35 PM
In essence, the 2.4 is a direct swap. It's damn near the same exact block (less taller deck) and unless you know what you're looking at no one will know the difference between the 4G63 and 4G64.

john
07-13-2004, 12:54 AM
Get a 2.4l engine out of a 89 sonata. Not a 4g64, that is a 7 bolt version. The sonata's have a 6 bolt 4g63. I believe they run around $200-400 for the whole engine depending on where you find it. I have seen them go for $100 plus shipping for the whole engine at a junk yard but shipping from Iowa was $100-150 (quote).

Matt D.
07-13-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Jul 12 2004, 11:54 PM
Get a 2.4l engine out of a 89 sonata.  Not a 4g64, that is a 7 bolt version.  The sonata's have a 6 bolt 4g63.  I believe they run around $200-400 for the whole engine depending on where you find it.  I have seen them go for $100 plus shipping for the whole engine at a junk yard but shipping from Iowa was $100-150 (quote).
The entire point of getting a 4G64 is for the extra .4 liters of displacement. There are both 6-bolt and 7-bolt versions of the 4G64.

The 4G64 came in a variety of Mitsubishi cars:
Eclipse 2.4 SOHC 1996-1999
Eclipse 2.4 SOHC-16V 2000-2003
Expo 2.4 7-Passenger 1992-1996
Expo LRV 2.4 5-Pass 1993-1996
Galant 2.4 4-Cyl. 1999-2003
Galant 2.4 DOHC 1994-1994
Galant 2.4 SOHC 1994-1998
Montero Sport 2.4 1997-1999
Van & Wagon 2.4 1987-1990

The Hyundai engine code for the 4G64 is the G4CS:
Sonata 2.4 SOHC-8V 1989-1993

Without a lot of searching I can't find a resource the defines what years determine 6-bolt from 7-bolt 4G64, but I can't imagine it would be any different than anything 92.5 and earlier being 6-bolt, just like the 4G63.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
07-13-2004, 02:19 AM
I believe one source is also the 86-89 Galant

Halon
07-13-2004, 02:32 AM
I personally am going the 2.3L route. Already started pricing it all out. I'm not 100% sure on everything that is needed to do the 2.4 swap, but the 2.3 way seems to be a lot easier to me. Maybe someone else can input on it but maybe you should look into goint the 2.3 route as well before doing the 2.4. Anyone else feel free to comment

1ViciousGSX
07-13-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by me612@Jul 13 2004, 01:32 AM
I personally am going the 2.3L route. Already started pricing it all out. I'm not 100% sure on everything that is needed to do the 2.4 swap, but the 2.3 way seems to be a lot easier to me. Maybe someone else can input on it but maybe you should look into goint the 2.3 route as well before doing the 2.4. Anyone else feel free to comment
The 2.3L is easier, but the rod angle is worse. The 4mm additional height on the deck will improve it. Also going with longer rods will improve it also. The 2.3L uses custom pistons, so why not go with the 2.4L, with or without longer rods the pistons are custom anyway.

JET
07-13-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Jul 12 2004, 11:54 PM
Get a 2.4l engine out of a 89 sonata. Not a 4g64, that is a 7 bolt version. The sonata's have a 6 bolt 4g63. I believe they run around $200-400 for the whole engine depending on where you find it. I have seen them go for $100 plus shipping for the whole engine at a junk yard but shipping from Iowa was $100-150 (quote).
I really hate it when people spout off shit they have no idea about. If you don't know what you are talking about then shut up!

This isn't totally aimed at you John, but I have seen it several times. You are a newbie, so don't act like you know everything.

The 2 block numbers at the G4CS (hyundai) or the 4G64. There are 6 and 7 bolt versions of both, so make sure you get the right model years. It is a pretty direct swap (just as easy as a 2.3l) but the blocks are getting harder to find. Just watch the model year to make sure that you get a 6 bolt.

Matt D.
07-13-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by JET+Jul 13 2004, 12:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JET @ Jul 13 2004, 12:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I really hate it when people spout off shit they have no idea about.&nbsp; If you don't know what you are talking about then shut up!&nbsp;

This isn't totally aimed at you John, but I have seen it several times.&nbsp; You are a newbie, so don't act like you know everything.[/b]
I agree. A little research goes a LONG way, but still don't act like you know everything.

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The 2 block numbers at the G4CS (hyundai) or the 4G64.&nbsp; There are 6 and 7 bolt versions of both, so make sure you get the right model years.&nbsp; It is a pretty direct swap (just as easy as a 2.3l) but the blocks are getting harder to find.&nbsp; Just watch the model year to make sure that you get a 6 bolt.[/quote]
Was I correct in assuming that the 92.5 and previous 4G64 are 6-bolt just like the 4G63? It was the only logical thing I could think of.

JET
07-13-2004, 02:15 PM
all of the big boards have the exact years. I think it was 89-91, but I am not positive. Check out tuners or talk and they will have all of the specifics. NABR has everything too.