Four Marines shot

[1ViciousGSX]

At a military establishment with this sign on the door,....

http://i1.tribune.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/922360-chattanooga-1437074550-940-640x480.png

Sign reads, "Federal Installation: Firearms prohibited in this facility".

So not to top the stupidity of "gun free zones", but then there's this,...

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[tehehodi]

aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd i want my conceal and carry.

[AJ]

It's worth having.

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[SlowWhite]

So can we deport his whole family now? Since he was raised here, clearly his views had to be taught at home. Hell anyone read his senior yearbook message?

[jeremy1375]

A shooting happened where there was a no guns sign and the shooter was probably Muslim.

So if we take down the no guns sign it wouldn't have happened? Who cares if he was Muslim. Dylann Roof wasn't a Muslim and he shot people also. What's your point?

[1ViciousGSX]

So if we take down the no guns sign it wouldn't have happened?

Let's break it down like this,...

Would it have happened? Maybe,.... maybe not. But since the pattern seems to show these killers go to gun-free zones by choice, I'd say probably not.

Would a total of 4 marines be dead if they were armed? Probably not, nothing beats a well armed marine as a killing machine,..... So he might have gotten one, maybe two instead of 4 at this location and possibly a 5th at another location which I believe happened.

Same scenario at the ship yard last year, had those military personnel been carrying, the death toll would have been much less.

[jeremy1375]

When I was in the Marines, I lived around people of all kinds at Camp Pendleton. We were never allowed to carry weapons unless we were training with them in the field. Even if we had weapons we only carried live rounds at the range. Otherwise our weapons were locked in the armory.

I never would've felt comfortable if weapons were allowed in the barracks or carried around all the time. You get people from every walk of life there. Most are fine. But you get your fair share of crazies and suicidals who aren't up to the task. You also have your raging, and I mean raging alcoholics. Nevermind the rest who only get into a stupor on the weekends. Living on base, it's not like you just get to go home at night, unless you're married. You live in the barracks with the people you work with. More than once I had the door in my room kicked in by some fuck in a black out that didn't know where they were.

FUCK NO! to weapons carried on base.

[1ViciousGSX]

When I was in the Marines, I lived around people of all kinds at Camp Pendleton. We were never allowed to carry weapons unless we were training with them in the field. Even if we had weapons we only carried live rounds at the range. Otherwise our weapons were locked in the armory.

I never would've felt comfortable if weapons were allowed in the barracks or carried around all the time. You get people from every walk of life there. Most are fine. But you get your fair share of crazies and suicidals who aren't up to the task. You also have your raging, and I mean raging alcoholics. Nevermind the rest who only get into a stupor on the weekends. Living on base, it's not like you just get to go home at night, unless you're married. You live in the barracks with the people you work with. More than once I had the door in my room kicked in by some fuck in a black out that didn't know where they were.

FUCK NO! to weapons carried on base.

So you were a highly trained marine (as I assume all are or they wouldn't be marines)?
Which means you were highly trained in the proper use and storage of hand guns?
Along with barracks full of other highly trained marines who received the same training your did?
And you were afraid of those other highly trained marines with hand guns?
And you would rather be a sitting target to some crazy nut job than be able to defend your self?

This makes no sense to me,.....

[jeremy1375]

I never once touched a hand gun in the Marines. Enlisted Marines are issued an M-16. Only Officers got an M9.

Many people become Marines because of pride. Many fuck ups also become Marines because it was either that or jail. Regardless, most 18 year old kids who get through boot camp are idiots. It takes a few years to know whether someone makes a good Marine or not.

[1ViciousGSX]

This marine had enough time to text "active shooter" to his girlfriend during a conversation he was having with her when the shootings started. Plenty of enough time to draw and fire on a target when it all went down, if only he was armed.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/17/these-are-the-final-two-words-marine-killed-in-chattanooga-told-his-longtime-girlfriend/#comment-9515997