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1ViciousGSX
03-27-2015, 05:21 PM
I'm calling bullshit on your bullshit!

Complete Fucking bullshit!

Funny because i myself is exempt from the ACA. Why? Because i have healthcare through my employer, Why would the administration have to get on a ACA plan when they have healthcare though the plan put forth by their employer. Word trickery there, good job.

You are not "exempted from the ACA". You are following the law of the ACA that says you must have health insurance based on government requirements of coverage. So, although you have not purchased through a government exchange YET, you are still bound by the ACA which will dictate what coverage you get and to what extent you will get it. The Senate, Congress and Obama Inc are exempt from it, it's requirements and most importantly it's limitations.

Just wait, you haven't seen anything yet, wait until it fails. Until then, they'll jack up the rates so high you can't afford it anymore.

Oh wait, but what about the subsidies kicking in to reduce cost? Most who thought/were told they would get them are finding out its not so true.

Ask yourself, does it make sense to be taxed so heavily by the government just so the government can give it back to you in the way of "financial favors" (subsidies)? Of course those subsidies are after they skim some money off the top for themselves.


He turned his back on Israel because they were trying to fuck up a peace deal with iran to make sure they dont develope Weapons grade plutonium. Going from energy producing plutonium to weapons grade is quite different.
http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html , On top of that the stupid republicans with Yahoo were interfering with the talks before a resolution could even be made. it would be like me walking into a company directors meeting and telling them they cant make a decision about the company without my approval.

Have you been paying attention lately?
He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

You really believe Iran only wants nuclear energy? I guess all those ICBMs (inter-continental ballistic missiles) they're building are being built to deliver their oil to market? With Iran being the 2nd largest exporter of oil as of 2012, I'm sure they are having an energy crisis right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran


Stoking the flames? Really? The republican party has been stoking those flames well before the administration. Since when did Obama come out and say anything race related in this? By offering condolences and saying the DOJ will investigate, which they did and found nothing. Do you want the president to now come out and suck the dick of the cop? The president does not control the thoughts and minds of the people on both sides. Personally i dont agree with either side of this. I think the Black Lives Matter protests are a joke, all lives matter. but on the other hand, HUMAN brutality, on the part of the police, as well as humans in general sucks. And people need to just stop being so fucking violent towards other humans.

Pay attention, don't want to lose you in all this.

1) Black Panther voter intimidation at the polls.
Obama said and did nothing, Holder let it drag out long enough for most people to forget about it before deciding to drop the case for "lack of evidence". Guess the fucking video we all saw wasn't proof enough? Imagine if a white supremacy group had done it. By Obama's own actions in every other supposed "racist issue" that they pounce on, the Black Panthers were let off the hook because they were black.

2) "Cambridge Police acted stupidly" -Obama
From the incident where Harvard professor Skip Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct after police were called to the house for a possible burglary. Obama admitted he knew none of the details but proceeded to state that the police acted stupidly in arresting the professor. Why, because he was a black man. Or was it because he got billigerent and abussive to the cops with the "It's because I'm black!" bullshit instead of just calmly explaining himself. Remember the "Beer Summit" to smooth it over?

3) "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon" -Obama
Obama Inc did everything they could to twist the story and facts into a "white" hispanic male shooting an unarmed black youth. They even sent paid protestors to the area to add fuel to the fire.

4) "Hands Up Don't Shoot"
Obama Inc even to this day is claiming racial discrimination in Ferguson when it was proven Officer Wilson's actions were justfied. Claiming that more blacks are arrested or given tickets in Ferguson is just playing with the numbers to suit an agenda. Any time you have predominently black neighborhood, the numbers are gonna follow that.


So on one hand, you have the repubs saying that they dont want the government in their houses, and on the other hand, the government isnt doing enough monitoring of the civilians? Give me a break you cant have it both ways.


Nice strawman attempt, but you fail.

What the hell does Obama's illegal policy of an open boarder have to do with spying on the American people??? Do you not understand the importance of our being a soveriegn nation with a secure border?


On the Open border policy, do you feel a bigger fence would be better, Remember all of us are technically aliens, whether they came over on the mayflower, or much later. Import of illegal immigrants has gone down SIGNIFICANTLY since this administration came into the second term. Farmers and companies hiring migrant workers are fueling the import of illegal immigrants. So should the administration start prosecuting farmers for hiring immigrants and not doing background checks? im sure that will go over very well with the cons.

A bigger fence is not the issue, the deterrent is. Who's gonna obey our boundries when Obama Inc puts out the word, "You can't come in, *wink wink*. But, if you get here, you'll be welcomed with open arms and we'll give you all this free shit!"
Illegal immagration is down? Were you not paying attention to the huge influx of illegals that came into the country last year in waves?
Everybody is required to use E-Verify. It's already in place.
You're a big "raise the minimum wage" proponent right? So on one hand you want better pay for Americans, but then you want illegals to come in and take those jobs that would be minimum wage.


This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that welfare has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program

This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that HAVING A JOB has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program!

Why? Becuase instead of being a burden on the system, you become a contributor to the system while being self-sufficiant.


LOL, As opposed to republican senators, and congressmen sucking on the teet of the oil companys, that are DESTROYING whole ecosystems. or giants like Monsanto bullying farmers, and destroying insect populations vital to pollinating crops.

So you're saying Democratic senators and congressmen don't? Guess I'm gonna need proof of that.
So, in your "down with the corporations" mantra, have you stopped driving your car? Stopped chatting on your cell phone? Stopped buying plastic products?
Stopped eating processed foods? Stopped eating GMO? Stopped buying food and grow your own now?
I'm gonna guess the awnswer is NO for all of them.


You are a right wing crazy, and im sure you will call me a left wing nut. But what the big difference between us, is that i believe money and race does not drive everything in this world. I would not trade our air quality for industry, i would not trade animal populations for money.

Well you silly left wing nut,
I don't think money and race drive everything in this world either. Nothing I've said should have led you to that assumption. I believe in free enterprise and fair taxation. I don't believe in hand outs, but do believe in hand ups. The welfare state was never meant to be a lifestyle, although the Dems are the one's that made that happen. I do believe darwinism should be allowed to play it self out more, you can't regulate a harm free world eutopia. I think we should stop talking about race, PERIOD. Stand on your own two feet and do your best, you will be rewarded for it.

jeremy1375
03-30-2015, 05:13 PM
Reagrding the ACA

The Senate, Congress and Obama Inc are exempt from it, it's requirements and most importantly it's limitations.

I am very interested to hear your explanation of the specifics of how exactly they are all exempt from the ACA. To make such a statement, you must be very familiar with the Grassley Amendment.

1ViciousGSX
03-30-2015, 05:41 PM
Here's the latest I've seen on it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/27/is-congress-exempt-from-obamacare/2883635/

If things have changed and I'm wrong with that statement, I'll take my lashing and take it back. I'm willing to admit a mistake if I made one.

jeremy1375
03-30-2015, 07:35 PM
Nothing has changed since then. It's the argument that lawmakers are exempt from something important that is the issue.

Senator Chuck Grassley wrote the amendment that takes away the government health plan benefit from federal lawmakers instead requiring them to get their insurance from the exchanges. What he forgot to do was include legislation that describes how the federal government should pay for the exchange insurance since the exchanges were only designed for small businesses and individuals.

The "exemption" that was being sought by some after was the ability to keep their government health plan. What wound up happening was the federal government would kick in the same amount of money towards the exchange insurance as went toward the government plan. That also was considered an "exemption" by some because technically only a small business could do that under the law.

The whole thing that was called the "exemption" amounted to this - lawmakers lost access to their government health plan and instead had to get their health insurance benefits from the exchange. There's really nothing controversial about that.