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Speedfreak
12-24-2014, 02:13 PM
Turns out the points in my pictures above are sediment traps. Between the instructions for the heater and more searching online, there are pictures I found showing right and wrong furnace installations. The sediment trap is the right way to install a furnace.
That being said, wondering if I can still use that point by just adding another "T" and just having the sediment trap lower than it is now?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/169356/2015-01-29%2017.18.08.jpg
just did this to my place the other day.. added 1" source line upgraded from 1/2 inch.
I couldn't run tankless and furnace at the same time they were shutting each other off.
I had them shut off valves all nicely lined up but they needed to be turned another quarter turn so they don't leak and now its driving me nuts so off to turn them rest of the way to line them up... gah
Speedfreak
01-29-2015, 10:48 PM
Does this mean you want to help me with my simple install? :)
turbotalon1g
01-30-2015, 04:10 AM
Awesome work.
Let us know how the tank less works for you. I've read th at sometimes our cold climate doesn't play nice with the tank less setups. Takes too long to heat ice cold water
asshanson
01-30-2015, 04:24 AM
Why were they shutting each other off? Not enough pressure to supply both heaters? Do they have shut-off switches if the pressure gets too low? Makes me a little scared to install a line to my garage for a NG heater.
Looks like a clean install though.
Yeah, the way the gas pressure works is more on the volume as gas expands. so you need a larger line to supply enough expanded gas to your appliances.
Previous line was 1/2, the tankless water heater requires 3/4 line to have enough gas to run properly. Incoming water temp is about 45 during winter and about 55 during summer, but to raise that extra 10 degrees requires more gas. So during winter if furnace kicks in the Tankless shuts off due to lack of gas to run properly IF i'm taking a shower, it starts pouring cold instead of hot.
Temperature control with tankless is a bit off, its either too hot or cold, but that's primarily because of the drop in pressure in the house while others are using cold or hot water. IF i could have 1" cold water pipes all the way to the tankless and to supply for the rest of the house cold water splits there would be NO issues. But because city doesn't allow 1" lines into residential housing i'm stuck with 3/4 inch and you have loss of volume/pressure and that slight difference can cause temperature fluctuations.
It is good tho, i love the tankless, my electric bills went from $190 - $220, down to $100ish . my previous water heater was electric. i didn't want to throw out perfectly good water heater so when i had an opportunity to get rid of it and put in tankless I took it, that was 2 years ago. lol laziness kicked in and was easier to turn off furnace while taking shower for last 2 years! hehe
turbotalon1g
01-30-2015, 04:29 PM
Nice to know.
We are going to need a new furnace soonish and then a water heater possibly.
Speedfreak
08-21-2015, 09:17 PM
Well holy crap! Bman, I believe I have a guy to install one for you!
It's alive!
Kinda can't wait for cold. :P
Charged $350 including parts (shut off valve, lines etc). I already had the heater..
Oops, pic is sideways, but you get the idea..
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