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Alpha D
07-22-2014, 02:45 PM
DO NOT GO TO UTI!

Personally i am a Dunwoody college of technology graduate...and even though i landed a job in the field i went to school for, if i could do it all over again i would not spend more then 15k on any degree other then a bachelors at minimum. I would not do Automotive formally either. Try hard to stick with a none private school. UTI, Dunwoody, wyotech...ect ect you are paying half your tuition for the name...no matter what school you go to no piece of paper will do you as much good as hard work, self application, and industry experience.

Halon
07-22-2014, 03:25 PM
DO NOT GO TO UTI!

Personally i am a Dunwoody college of technology graduate...and even though i landed a job in the field i went to school for, if i could do it all over again i would not spend more then 15k on any degree other then a bachelors at minimum. I would not do Automotive formally either. Try hard to stick with a none private school. UTI, Dunwoody, wyotech...ect ect you are paying half your tuition for the name...no matter what school you go to no piece of paper will do you as much good as hard work, self application, and industry experience.

Agree completely. Private schools are spendy and probably not worth the extra cost most of the time. I'm just using Dunwoody as an example because that's where I'm going, and it's 100% free for me so the cost is no nevermind for me. If I was paying out of pocket, I'd be looking at places like Anoka Tech or Henn Tech. You can go to the Henn Tech robotics program, and I bet it's less than half the cost of Dunwoody, and it's a MNSCU school so that's nice if you ever consider going to a different school and want to transfer credits.

s1ngletracker
07-22-2014, 04:28 PM
I will chime in and say a tech school degree is not the same as a 4 year degree; you're looking at a starting salary of maybe 30-40k as compared to 50-70k (depending highly on your field, but i'm thinking the engineering/manufacturing world)

Not all 4 year degrees are created equal, either... it's easier to get a job coming from a good school. However, that is a minor concern to many people. Just don't get a 4 year degree from a for-profit university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For-profit_education)

However, a 4 year degree in liberal arts is pretty worthless. Get a degree with a very specific end career goal.

You can get to the same level as someone with a 4 year degree, but you have anywhere from a 5-10 year handicap on getting there (and in some cases longer or it doesn't happen)

I just finished my second 4-year degree and i'm planning a masters before too long. To me, the money spent on the (yes, fcuked up and overpriced) educational system is still worth a lot more than say, a brand new EVO X and always will be.

tehehodi
07-22-2014, 04:29 PM
Any state community/tech college has a automotive program and all that jazz. And they are cheap to attend compared to other schools. Personally, dibble-dabble in some places you think you'd want to work and see if you really like it before going to school for it. Otherwise you'd be spending buttloads of money for nothing and switching majors constantly.

AJ
07-22-2014, 05:55 PM
Not all 4 year degrees are created equal, either... it's easier to get a job coming from a good school. However, that is a minor concern to many people. Just don't get a 4 year degree from a for-profit university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For-profit_education)


This is the only item I don't agree with. There is some negativity on these schools but it's laregy due to the students themselves. I'm a couple courses away from my MBA via Keller and I've had the opportunity to work directly with professors who have held key positions in the field taught at many fortune 100 companies. I've seen a lot of people in classes who pay their money and will never progress beyond where they are at. It's sad, but it's true. These schools provide opportunities (especially with the online and onsite flexibility) that traditional schools are just now starting to. In the end it's all about what the student does with the info they have the opportunity to learn. So many people expect shit with a degree, fuck that, go earn it. :)

typeRA
07-22-2014, 06:11 PM
Regarding education...the formal 4-year university education system in this country is royally fucked right now. It is way too expensive and you'll rack up more debt that it's worth. I'd suggest sticking with a trade-type school, which it sounds like you're already on that path with UTI so stick with it.
do you also buy alex jones's water filters?


Get a degree from a reputable university, and sit back and enjoy the ride

dsmDolney
07-22-2014, 07:21 PM
I will most likely just attend anoka tech for something other than automotive. Dont know what exsactly yet but i will figure it out sometime.

Fejery4491
07-22-2014, 07:38 PM
do you also buy alex jones's water filters?


Get a degree from a reputable university, and sit back and enjoy the ride

Unemployment rates for those with 4 year degrees is almost double that of someone with a 2 year tech school degree. Meanwhile your average 4 year degree will have 3x the tution of those going to a tech school. Median pay between the two is surprisingly simular too.

typeRA
07-22-2014, 09:10 PM
Unemployment rates for those with 4 year degrees is almost double that of someone with a 2 year tech school degree. Meanwhile your average 4 year degree will have 3x the tution of those going to a tech school. Median pay between the two is surprisingly simular too.
those statistics are flawed for many reasons. A solid two are the fact that some people go for the academic enlightenment(aka the purpose of higher ed), and some majors are just stupid. You won't find "useless" majors at a tech school. The purpose of a tech is to make producers in a population, not invigorate intellectual innovation.

Comparing salaries is apples to basketballs. Positions are a good difference to discuss when describing starting pay. I'd rather have a cushy office chair job for 20 years than destroy my body and sanity wrenching.

I study cognitive neuroscience. I also happen to hold certs in the pharma/food stainless process piping field. Without a day in a trade school. Honestly, if anyone out of highschool wants a rec to a stainless company that can make your 92k starting working across the country, I'd be happy to give referrals.

tal-evo
07-22-2014, 10:26 PM
I go to SMSU in Marshall. Love it, but we don't do cars.