Strange noise while cranking.

[turbotalon1g]

I didn't want to continue hi-jacking the kiggly flexplate install thread.

Car is '91 AWD auto, nothing swapped(trans), mods in sig.

My car has a grinding issue, but only when starting the car, once it is running there are no problems.

I warrantied the starter and still the same issue, so I thought maybe a broken flexplate, but it is in perfect shape.

I am 100% stumped why I'm having this issue.
Since the trans is out, I'm installing a kiggly flexplate I am just waiting for my ARP hardware to show up.

The starter plate appears to be the correct one by referencing pics posted by JNZ tuning's starter plate page.
http://www.jnztuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=3947

I have the center plate (which per JNZ is for a 1G auto):
http://www.jnztuning.com/images/starterplate.jpg


I have called parts stores and searched trying to see if there is a different starter, but it appears the only oddball starter is for a 2G auto trans all the other cars use the same.

Any help is much appreciated.

---------- Post added 05-29-2014 at 19:48 ----------

Anyone?
I have ARPs on the way to install my Kiggly flexplate.

So i keep forgetting to check the logs, however the car is back together with the kiggly flexplate and ARP crank bolts.
Still have the same issue, voltage does drop to 9V (checked via multimeter on battery during cranking),
starter checked out to be ok, however so did the battery.

I have a small AGM battery rated to 220CCA in the car, its been fine before but I did kill it this winter.
Now I've been charging it tested ok at 2 diff places on 2 diff types of testers.
Last tester this am, (interstate battery tester) showed the battery having 12.48V and 338CCA.

When I get off work, I will try it with a battery out of my ford ranger which is in the 600-700CCA region IIRC.

I'm 100% baffled by this issue, some of you mentioned adding a ground maybe if the new battery tries that.

---------- Post added 06-07-2014 at 12:00 ----------

Tried a newer even more powerful battery, 2 months old rated at 700CCA, 825CA@32F.
no change.

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I'm ridiculously baffled by this, any help is much appreciated.

---------- Post added 06-07-2014 at 15:40 ----------

Anyone?

---------- Post added 06-07-2014 at 20:17 ----------

So a friend mentioned that I've been having these issues since I swapped this motor in the car.
It's a used motor out of a local kids 5 spd car, but what could be on it that would cause these issues?
Dowel pins? crank bushing? Guys I'm 100% clueless on what to do here and I've already R&R'd the transmission once this week to try and solve the issue to no avail.
I'm honestly stumped.

[Speedfreak]

It's the correct flex plate(diameter)? How do the teeth look?

[Goat Blower]

Are you sure you have the correct starter? Besides a different one for autos, there's a separate part number for builds up to 12/90, and after 1/91 for autos. I'm betting you have the later one.

[turbotalon1g]

Flexplate is correct, teeth are starting to look not perfect from this issue.

Starter has been in the car since 8/12 when we went to the track.

[Speedfreak]

Starter may have been in the car, but everything it mates with has changed no? Maybe it's all designed to work with the other starter?

[A//// Guy]

Seems like that starter is not engaging properly, just from the paint missing on only the tips of the teeth.

[turbotalon1g]

Motor has been changed.
Paint is missing on 2/3rds of the teeth but that is the approximate width of the ring gear.
I will measure to confirm later.

[Goat Blower]

Starter has been in the car since 8/12 when we went to the track.

I thought you warrantied the starter for a new one? Here's what Napa online shows.


Starter - Remfd - Standard
Part Number: RAY 2446417
Product Line: NAPA Power Premium Plus
IMPORTANT INFO: w/ Automatic Transaxle;From 1/91


Starter - Remfd - Standard
Part Number: RAY 2446422
Product Line: NAPA Power Premium Plus
IMPORTANT INFO: To 12/90;w/ Automatic Transaxle

[turbotalon1g]

My bad, yeah I did. But it's the same part number. sorry.

That is weird info, o'reillys shows just one.

[turbotalon1g]

As soon as you select GSX or all wheel drive the option for that "from 1/91" disappears.
My car is 6/1991