2013 Proving Grounds

[Halon]

Didn't that Evo that crashed in one of the past years also "just miss" the tires too? Was it that same spot?

[dsmreck]

no spaz and the subalu were sat. i saw that fiat drag sat and did see it on the road coarse on sunday in the rain maybe i left too soon to see the crasg

[asshanson]

Were these accidents at turn 12 just before the bridge?

[A//// Guy]

Sounds like they really need to do something to better protect drivers around that turn at the least. Why they dont put some type of crash barrier that actually has some give on each corner is beyond me. Nothing in front of concrete barriers seems like a stupid idea.

[scheides]

Were these accidents at turn 12 just before the bridge?

Yes.

[simulatedwood]

Sounds like they really need to do something to better protect drivers around that turn at the least. Why they dont put some type of crash barrier that actually has some give on each corner is beyond me. Nothing in front of concrete barriers seems like a stupid idea.

For all the arm chair speculation... that whole turn 12 has a tire wall of at least 1000 tires. When spaz went sideways he hit the one 3 ft section that is not covered because it is a drive out for safety workers. Spaz has bad luck.

[Fran05]

Does anyone have any videos/pictures of those wrecks?

[A//// Guy]

For all the arm chair speculation... that whole turn 12 has a tire wall of at least 1000 tires. When spaz went sideways he hit the one 3 ft section that is not covered because it is a drive out for safety workers. Spaz has bad luck.

Thats what I heard as well about the part he hit, hard to visualize without seeing it. Seems like something could still be put there as resistance if people keep crashing in this area. Just glad his ordeal wasnt worse.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Sounds like they really need to do something to better protect drivers around that turn at the least. Why they dont put some type of crash barrier that actually has some give on each corner is beyond me. Nothing in front of concrete barriers seems like a stupid idea.

Those barriers aren't even close to the track. And they added a shit load of tires to it after that Evo got totalled a couple years ago when it went straight off at 90mph.

Nothing is going to fix random failures, over driving a car, small errors that turn big, etc. Road course driving is very dangerous, your car has to hold together for more than a 1/4 mile and you aren't hitting cones, you are possibly hitting walls and trees. The lack of driver training and allowing anyone to get out there and drive is always scary to me at the PG events.

[simulatedwood]

The lack of driver training and allowing anyone to get out there and drive is always scary to me at the PG events.

RSMotors is trying to do something about that with our DCTC driving events. This Proving ground there was a serious lack of instructors from BIR (I saw 1 on sunday) to help out with the newer drivers. MAP PG will need more instructors if they wanna keep having driving events @ PG.