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02-20-2013, 01:05 PM
my co workers selling his 2009 ninja 500. would be a great learning bike

93gtpeater
02-20-2013, 01:37 PM
Why do you want a bike anyways? Chicks? Save money? Try to look cool? Whats the real reason? bikes are not cheap to ride. A bike will cost you lots of money if you ride it alot.

C3L1CA
02-20-2013, 01:48 PM
If he ever really does get into racing, the real racing orginizations will not let a new person in their orginization race a 1000cc bike. I'm sure I'd rock a new guy on a 1000 bike on a track if I had a 600. Hammer fisting on the straights is fun but does not teach a new guy how to ride.

I rode my r6 for several years before I got rid of it, never really got bored of it.

Alpha D
02-20-2013, 02:41 PM
my co workers selling his 2009 ninja 500. would be a great learning bike

Pm some details please!

Alpha D
02-20-2013, 03:02 PM
Well ive never been the do anything with the intention of showing of especially for girls so ..hmm not for girls ..no homo....as far as the cool factor... I really really think bikes are sweet..the looks the sound just everything about them...plus I'd like to explore and face my fears....I think bikes are super reckless kind of ha but at the same time if your no over confident and learn the basics well you can postpone being one if the two types of riders...not to mention the girl or any second passenger I can only imagine will take quite some time to master ha...I'm worried about my own health ..then another funny

JET
02-20-2013, 04:03 PM
To each his own in respect of motor size. I guess it all depends on your learning curve. Anything over a 1000cc i believe is too big for any fun.

Some people enjoy cc's differently. If your just street cruising for the ladies and to say you have a bike with occasional fun runs then a 600 is perfect.

But if you like to ride, and willing to explore what riding truly has to offer , as in track time and even dragging. 1000cc is already able to perform . Its a street legal track bike. Obviously people who know bikes will argue that with a 600 you can break later and turn sharper, but thats a whole othier debate.

We are on a performance forum. Im sure you like speed , hp, and torque. So why limit yourself out of the gate ? But at the same time do your research. What i love you may hate and vice versa. Ride a few bikes. It will feel akward at first no matter what you ride.

Just remember to keep your feet up! Have you taken your permit test yet ? And to those who commented on my post. What i meant by taking fairings off and riding i mean in a large empty parking lot. Get the feel for it. Counter steering , you basically ride with your hips and counter steer

Sorry man, but this is totally a squid mentality. Go find any truely good rider (expert level with the CRA) and ask them about starting out on a liter bike. If you started on a liter bike you will probably never be a really good rider or you are going to crash a lot. I raced in the CRA for 3 years and made expert level. There is a reason you see race series' always have a "feeder series", whether open wheel, NASCAR or GP racing. They always start with lower powered cars/bikes and work their way up.

While you may have no intentions of becoming a racer the logic still applies to the street. You are going to avoid a collision easier if you have better bike control, which you learn with a smaller bike.

That 500 ninja is a decent bike, mediocre power and handles well. The biggest knock on it is the steel frame, but it doesn't seem to hurt the handling. They are very reliable too.

M1L3S
02-20-2013, 04:15 PM
If he ever really does get into racing, the real racing orginizations will not let a new person in their orginization race a 1000cc bike. I'm sure I'd rock a new guy on a 1000 bike on a track if I had a 600. Hammer fisting on the straights is fun but does not teach a new guy how to ride.

I rode my r6 for several years before I got rid of it, never really got bored of it.

Open track days anyone with a suit and helmet and a few misc. Can hit the track. And just because you have the power of a 1000cc dosent mean you have to use it. When i got my first bike it was 1/2 throttle to 3/4 throttle for the longest time. Aside from the size and weight.(which truly isnt much difference anymore)

Basically the whole point im trying to make here is that a 1000cc has more power and torquelower and sooner then a 600cc up top things slowly align with the too depending on modifications.(dont flame lol try to keep it simple)

A 1000cc is easier to scare yourself on, but at the same time you will respect it faster and when your ready to ride and have fun. All the power is there. Plus all the guys and groups you meet will most likely be sporting 750cc+. Its all about riding at your own level.

Hypothetically you can fuck yourself up on both bikes. An 600cc is easier to pick up then 1000cc lol.

Oh, and lowside is case best case scenario in a crash, thats bike sliding out from under and you sliding with it. Happends when tire loses traction mainly in a tight turn

Highside, not worst case but pretty bad. This is when tire.loses traction then regains it while its kicked side ways, causeing you to virtually slingshot off your bike up and over.

Depending on your gear and riding style this could be death or just changed underwear :) always wear gear!

If you youtube it youll see some pretty nasty ones(moto gp). Lowsides they almost always get up , high sides is 50/50

Alpha D
02-21-2013, 09:29 PM
Open track days anyone with a suit and helmet and a few misc. Can hit the track. And just because you have the power of a 1000cc dosent mean you have to use it. When i got my first bike it was 1/2 throttle to 3/4 throttle for the longest time. Aside from the size and weight.(which truly isnt much difference anymore)

Basically the whole point im trying to make here is that a 1000cc has more power and torquelower and sooner then a 600cc up top things slowly align with the too depending on modifications.(dont flame lol try to keep it simple)

A 1000cc is easier to scare yourself on, but at the same time you will respect it faster and when your ready to ride and have fun. All the power is there. Plus all the guys and groups you meet will most likely be sporting 750cc+. Its all about riding at your own level.

Hypothetically you can fuck yourself up on both bikes. An 600cc is easier to pick up then 1000cc lol.

Oh, and lowside is case best case scenario in a crash, thats bike sliding out from under and you sliding with it. Happends when tire loses traction mainly in a tight turn

Highside, not worst case but pretty bad. This is when tire.loses traction then regains it while its kicked side ways, causeing you to virtually slingshot off your bike up and over.

Depending on your gear and riding style this could be death or just changed underwear :) always wear gear!

If you youtube it youll see some pretty nasty ones(moto gp). Lowsides they almost always get up , high sides is 50/50





Im scared as is!!! & I havent even got on a bike yet! Looks like there are quite a few people that would like to learn to ride this season though...ill check out that place in edina one of these days and keep an eye out on crashed toys .com...maybe ill even sell the dsm for some dirt cheap price...Cost of Gas just keeps on GOING WAY UP!

As far as high siding goes i assume its a 50 percent chance of surviving or dying...thats good to know....i dont see low siding being to common unless your over confident or just slip on gravel or something? People keep your eyes and ears open for killer deals on bikes please!

Thank you,

M1L3S
02-21-2013, 11:40 PM
As blunt as it is, you have a 50 percent chance of dying everyday lol. You ethier die or you dont. Why not live life to the fullest :)

I was rushing in my last post. High sides and low sides can happen at any time. Your driving on a bike that has no more grip on the rode then a size 11 shoe. (Depending on tire size)

Just dont ride outside your limits, and always be aware of your surroundings and wear gear. You'll be fine :)

89_Colt_GT
02-22-2013, 01:35 AM
Ha, I did this on a 200cc enduro. Just make sure to pay attention to what you're doing. Anticipate the actions of those that might enter your driving path. I was going around a bend and had a car pull out in front of me. I didn't have a chance, But be safe. Helmet is a must, gloves and elbow pads i'd highly advise. The hot nurse that pulled gravel out of my elbow wasn't very gentle.

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