View Full Version : Anyone want to make a newbie make some good power?
scheides
05-19-2012, 12:00 PM
Yea, I agree with goodhart. Before you go down the path of making epic power spend some time rounding the car off. Short shifter, underhood shift bushings, front motor mount, springs, sway, etc. It's the little stuff that make these cars fun!
Plus, stock IX turbo on E85 = bomb setup, you may be happy with it, most people are!
bramagedained
05-19-2012, 12:21 PM
Personally, my favorite mod is the head unit I bought from Scheides so I can listen to music from my Ipod. :)
goodhart
05-19-2012, 12:38 PM
And I would buy the turbo last. Get all the other stuff (Injectors, E85, FMIC, piping, tune, mounts, bushings, shifter, etc) THEN get the green. That's just the way I would do it, to see if you really think you need the extra power over a stock turbo e85 setup, and to make sure you can actually drive it. Lots of people are stuck on making 500 HP when they can't drive a car with 400 HP.
MorningWood
05-19-2012, 12:56 PM
And I would buy the turbo last. Get all the other stuff (Injectors, E85, FMIC, piping, tune, mounts, bushings, shifter, etc) THEN get the green. That's just the way I would do it, to see if you really think you need the extra power over a stock turbo e85 setup, and to make sure you can actually drive it. Lots of people are stuck on making 500 HP when they can't drive a car with 400 HP.
Like me :D, I couldn't drive my 500whp last year, so what did I do this year? Made more to compensate for my lack of driving ability, it only seems right, yeah?
scheides
05-19-2012, 01:11 PM
Personally, my favorite mod is the head unit I bought from Scheides so I can listen to music from my Ipod. :)
Hah, that too! Bumpin tunes are a must. Glad you still like that thing, I loved it!
GGcloudIX
05-21-2012, 12:48 AM
Thanks again for the continued advice everyone!
Whatever the parts I decide on will all be ordered, installed, and tuned at the same time. Since my mechanical prowess is nowhere near your guy's, whats most likely to happen is i'm going to have all the parts sent to DB and have them install and tune everything and return it to me finished. I can't go without a car for more than a few days and would be more comfortable with a shop doing the work, I don't trust myself.
With that being said, sounds like the general concensus for power is to get the turbo, injectors, fmic, drop springs and have Shane tune it on e85?? I had heard from my friend Kody of Bryces old setup and it sounds like i will have a similar mods list and make comprable power, which is what I want. I heard he drove it for many many miles and drove it how it was supposed to be driven, and had no problems.
I already have some good bolt ons (fuel pump, full 3 in exhaust, intake, UICP, LICP, bov, boost controller/wideband) so if I round out the setup and make roughly what Bryce made i'll be more than happy.
I wanted to do the cams/valve springs/studs/retainers, but are they not worth it at this point? If I can make my power goals without them i'd prefer to save on the labor of tearing the motor part way apart and those are also expensive parts.
Also the money could be then put to bushings, mounts, and possibly a further upgraded clutch. I fully agree on "rounding" the car out and make it an AutoX champ, but a majority of my driving is straight line speed. Honestly, my personal preference would be to make the power and try my hand at auto x. I don't expect anything impressive, but I think it would be cooler to drive it a bit then do the minor suspension/bushings to see how much of a difference it really makes. Thanks again for how easy you guys are to talk to!!
goodhart
05-21-2012, 05:04 AM
You're buds with Kody? I don't ever hear from that fool anymore! Tell him I say hi.
bramagedained
05-21-2012, 05:04 AM
The FWIW, my car was fine with the factory head studs at 514whp/454wtq. Though, I only ran that setup for 1 season so YMMV.
I ran the stock valvesprings with Cosworth M2 cams since I bought the car in 2009, with the limiter set to 8k which it saw more than a few times without issue too. I found out from the previous owner a few months ago that the cams had been in the car since 2007.
For labor and tuning, I have only good things to say about Shane and DB as a whole.
GGcloudIX
05-21-2012, 03:49 PM
Ya, I've known Kody for a couple few years. He's seen me go through 4 cars, he helped with my SRT4, i think my terminator Cobra and tons of help with the Evo, and he swears by you guys, and your all great people! And i agree, Shane and the DB crew are the ones doing everything, will be the cars second tune by them.
So guess its time to pull the trigger, will be ordering an ETS 3.5 in front mount to go with my Fujita upper/lower Ic pipes, leave my intake and full exhaust as is, ust the addition of a 3 in 02 housing and divorced wg "screamer pipe", upgrade my existing wally pump, get bigger injectors, head studs/ gasket to be safe, and rock the FP73HTA Green on e85. Do you guys think anything else will be needed to hit between 450-500whp corrected on DBs dyno safely?
And as far as brands, who makes the best for the money for a 340 or 400lph pump, best head studs/gasket combo, best 02 housing and 02 eliminator downpipe/screamer pipe?
Thanks again guys, hopefully soon I'll be able to quit bugging you guys. But thanks so much for the suport and advice!!
GGcloudIX
05-21-2012, 03:52 PM
And what is the best injector to go with, keeping in mind the car may someday be gettin more power??
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