Small turbos make me smile

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I thought over boosting small frame turbos was the DSMers creed

[Tachyon]

I don't think I could drive a car that is supposed to keep me happy power wise that was any lower than 400whp on Shanes dyno.

You should really drive a road that has "turns" on it ;)

[scheides]

I don't think I could drive a car that is supposed to keep me happy power wise that was any lower than 400whp on Shanes dyno. But at the same time, when I build a car, I build it for reliability(as much as possible of course).

Yip, same for a lot of people, which is why I really like these sized turbos. Even on the most basic setup they'll make 400whp at DB all day long.

http://www.evomn.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6804

[Speedfreak]

You should really drive a road that has "turns" on it ;)

I prefer "turns", and I still like the aforementioned power levels. ;)

[Matt D.]

When you consider a car as a machine with the ability to go, stop and turn it becomes quite apparent that 300-400whp is plenty for the vast majority of people. It's not until you are at the limit of adhesion going through a corner at 60mph+, you hit the apex and power out of the turn that you really understand how much power you really have control of. Any more than that and an inexperienced driver would wind up going the wrong way off the pavement, or worse. Add in the fact that most people do not upgrade their brakes and suspension when they reach these power levels and the chance for disaster increases.

When I discovered that my measly 300whp/wtq car could spin the wheels on wet pavement in 2nd gear I truly understood how much of a car I was in control of. The unfortunate part of all this is people fail to understand how much fun a car of this power level is, and there's so much more to it than going fast in a straight line. Small turbos truly shine when you're turning the wheel.

[19TsiAwd90]

has a e316g ever hit 400 at db? this was my original goal but i relized it probably wasnt going to happen so i lowered it to 340

[turbotalon1g]

I thought over boosting small frame turbos was the DSMers creed

It's how I roll. True DSMer yo.

Can everyone stop using T3/T4 as a size reference, all you are doing is naming the exhaust inlet flange and T3 is different from T4, let the honda idiots keep talking like that and awd-drifter apparently.

This thread is good for 2 reasons, I wanted to talk to scheides about his "small turbo" love, the turbo's he seems to like are these 50lb/min (3052, 3076, etc) things that a 16G just wont do, maybe the new 68hta. But i have to agree that size is perfect I know I loved my bolt-on holset which is comparable to those.

2nd, is my friend is asking my what I want to do with my car and I can honestly not describe what I want, but I want the response and some top end. It's even harder with an auto and an Auto DSM at that we all know 1Gs can't turn.

I think a 2.3 with a green would be mint for a tire shredding, cone-dodging DD, it would still go in a straight line fast enough to be most of the things you will run into.

That dudes powerband is exactly what I want, straight line HP to redline (8k)

Thanks for posting.

[Goat Blower]

It's the new trend, a lot of the former 500+whp club like myself have already done that and want to go back to something more drivable. i suppose it also ties to tons of people getting bored with import drag racing and looking for other venues to have fun.

[Halon]

To each their own. But I agree, for me it's all about useable power band. I loved the power my Talon made, but hated that I had to wait for 5000+ RPM's to get there. Hence my reason for choosing something with a little more displacement. People joke that my turbo choice is tiny for my car, but that's fine. My goal is to have a car that is fast and enjoyable to drive.

To each their own!

[awd-drifter]

It's how I roll. True DSMer yo.

Can everyone stop using T3/T4 as a size reference, all you are doing is naming the exhaust inlet flange and T3 is different from T4, let the honda idiots keep talking like that and awd-drifter apparently.


Hahahah! I was jokin' with the T3/T4 because the Honda guys I chill around with still talk about that turbo like it is the greatest most powerful turbo out there when a ebay e316g would probably give them a better powerband.

I don't mind going with the bigger turbos but I know there's more and more you need to do to get that thing to reach it's potential. I'd like to be in the passenger seat of a pretty big turbo Evo though.