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TalonFiero
03-19-2011, 10:53 AM
Quick background: I bought an IX MR GG brand new in June of 2006 for $32,500 and it has ran on E85 for 4 years straight, 4500+gallons worth of the good stuff. 11.1@126.5mph is my best time @432hp/395tq DynoDynamics at 31psi.

First Post will be the "Stock Block 2.0 Era."
Second post will be about "2.3 Block Era"

Moar background:
Jan of 2007 http://www.evomn.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=731&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 I was already set on going to E85 soon after my 92 tune. It is funny looking back thinking 23psi on 92 was maybe too much boost.

My Project thread link on evomn.net http://www.evomn.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5480

April 2007 Sometime in April I converted to E85 with Shane at DB Performance eventually making anywhere from 340-360hp and about the same in TQ depending on the current condition of the car and available fuel.

Fall 2008 Before a BIR event in late 2008 Shane@DB did this http://www.evomn.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2876 377hp/377tq car had only two passes at the track and went 11.9 at 118mph.

May 2009 Then I bought an FP Red turbo in May of 2009 and Shane did this http://www.evomn.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=35432&highlight=#35432 432hp/395tq

June 2009 Oh noes! I lose to B-Rad in the finals at the first Annual Proving Grounds event put on by MAP. Car ran many 11.1 and 11.2 times that day all around 127mph riding out fourth gear at 8500 rev limiter through the traps (6 speed gearing)
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August 2010 I was approached by FiD and they offered me a chance to test out one of their new stock turbo manifolds and I was very thankful for the opportunity. Here is the writeup on the events:

Hot one today. First pull today was 437hp. Car is basically the same as the 443hp run from back in June. Same graph curve, boost, AFR so that was nice to see, just a little less power and though the dyno compensates for weather it was still hot and muggy in the dyno room..

Swapped the MAP ported exhaust manifold out for a FiD tubular manifold on the dyno after a few baseline pulls and it picked up an honest 15+hp and more power pretty much everywhere through out the power band with no real noticeable increase in lag (very slight increase).

Graph shows a couple of the MAP ported stock manifold graphed and a couple of the FiD manny. Single best bolt on I have tried outside of turbo and full exhaust. :D

Normal Dyno Dynamics Numbers

http://dbptuning.com/dynocharts/FID1.jpg

Shootout Mode

http://dbptuning.com/dynocharts/FID-2SO.jpg


August 2010 MOD LIST:

Stock engine, never been opened, never had the head off.

ACT HDG6
3" TBE w/ebay O2 housing
BR Race Core FMIC
LICP Niesi
1250 Bluemax injectors
255 Walbro
Spoolinup COP
FP4R cams
FP Beehive Springs
FP 3" intake Perrin Filter
FP Red w/80mm comp cover
DB Performance MBC
FiD Tubular Ex Manifold
E85 and Shane's tuning abilities


I want to mention something about Shane Ziegler and Dan Wolfson at DB Performance. These guys have been some of the most helpful, knowledgeable and humble guys I have ever had the opportunity to work with in my 15 years of playing around with cars. Anyone can sell you a part, anyone can perform work on a car and collect your money, anyone can have a fast car that makes or does whatever but what matters to me is the enjoyment I get out of that journey to that end goal and then the next. Shane and Danny have made my performance cars more fun than I could ever have imagined.

TalonFiero
03-19-2011, 10:53 AM
2.3 Block - Here I come

August 2010 I spun rod bearing number 1. Shit. I was playing king of the streets and was having entirely to good of a time to care about the 13:1 AFRs. I purchased a parts evo earlier that year from Scheides and had most of the drivetrain still as I planned on building a motor eventually.

I started my 2.3 Build.

Parts ordered:

ACL Race Bearings
Mitsu balance shaft elim kit
Manley 2.3 forged crank
Eagle Rods
Manley Stoker Pistons
Machine work done by D&D Machining out of Bloomington

DB Performance helped with parts and some small issues as I was building my first motor
RS Motors helped with some build advice
MAP supplied some parts and helped fund my build by purchasing some evo blocks from me

http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/646/2010-05-01_14_47_291.jpg
http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/646/IMG_20101010_182836.jpg
http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/646/IMG_20100917_153251.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/IMG_20101010_183924.jpg

Start up:
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/th_015-5.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/?action=view&current=015-5.mp4)

Here is what fuels Trevor when he helps me in the garage!
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/023-2.jpg

Trevor said "Once Jim got the suspension back together we took it for a ride. I did talk a little smack about kracka in this video haha. I was drunk I couldn't help it...Forgive me as I was pretty drunk!!"
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/th_027-1.jpg (http://s849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/?action=view&current=027-1.mp4)

Here are a couple more pics as well:
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/022-1.jpg
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/019-1.jpg
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/T-revzr/024-4.jpg

At this time I sent in my FP Red turbo to be converted to an FP Black

I also sold my 6 speed and brought Scheides' old 5 speed in to DB Performance for their Tranny rebuild service. Performed the 6 speed to 5 speed swap without much issue. I felt like I had been dodging a bullet running higher power through the 6 speed.

TalonFiero
03-19-2011, 10:54 AM
November 2010 Dyno session does not go well, we determine my head must be bad. Car had uncontrollable knock issues and ran poorly under boost. I knew it had a couple hairline cracks but I wanted to try it out anyway. Also it seemed I had some bent valves after performing a leakdown test. Smoked pretty badly on WOT pulls on the dyno. Car drove fine enough but performance was severely lacking. Car is also running on speed density.

Here are the cracks on some of he combustion chambers once I yanked the head.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/IMG_20101128_003457.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/IMG_20101128_003508.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/IMG_20101128_003503.jpg

Found another MIVEC head in Nov and had DB Performance perform the head work. Bit of porting and 1mm oversized supertech valves put it.

March 2011 After fixing the head I put 2400 miles on the new motor. This past Thursday I visited DB Performance for another dyno session.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/Dyno1.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/646/medium/Dyno2.jpg

Boost drops a bit and I will try to fix that with a stronger WG and by running a BCS inline with the MBC. Car does not knock at all, the head was definitely most of the problem. Also the car does not smoke too bad at all after a WOT pull like it did back in November. The car should make some more power with the 2.3 and the Black, I think the FP4R cams are holding me back a bit on the top end and the boost drop could be a result of those cams. Maybe some GSC2s cams will help.

Current Mod List:

ACT HDG6
3" TBE w/ebay O2 housing
BR Race Core FMIC
LICP Niesi
1680 FIC High-Z injectors
Spoolinup High Impedance resistor bypass
255 Walbro modded
Kenne Bell Boost-a-pump
Spoolinup COP
FP4R cams
FP Beehive Springs
Supertech 1mm oversized valves
Ported Head by Gosh to DB Performance spec
K&N 4" Filter and CAI
FP Black Turbo
Grimspeed MBC
FiD Tubular Ex Manifold
E85 and Shane's tuning abilities

Hope to get this pig up past 530HP, that should put me over 600HP dyno jet which is a silly goal of mine. :)

turbotalon1g
03-19-2011, 11:32 AM
Am i allowed to post yet?

Your fall 2008 is when we did our frum roll action, sorry I think calling it TnC is gay.
explains why we were so close.

You need vid of how it sits now, I have free time today but no good camera car.

CornFed2.4
03-19-2011, 12:04 PM
I want a ride... If we both make it to BIR this year we should do Talon vs. EVO!

C3L1CA
03-19-2011, 12:07 PM
Awesome car and it was cool to read about the progress you have made over the years!

Goat Blower
03-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Jim, I need a ride, hopefully that'll get me off the computer and into the garage to build my 2.4.

scheides
03-19-2011, 01:29 PM
Epic story, I love it. Everything an evo should be. Simple and reliable at first, then slowly improved upon over time. Fighting through issues and getting it back on the road bigger and better than ever!

311evo
03-19-2011, 04:49 PM
Love the car Jim, awesome job building the motor.

I still cringe a bit when I see Scheides' 8.

niterydr
03-19-2011, 04:56 PM
Great build and a good journey thus far.