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scheides
05-08-2010, 05:46 PM
I'll also say that I only read the X forums...
Oh yea, I own one of those now, maybe I should check that site out. :P
turbotalon1g
05-08-2010, 06:48 PM
Scary, a bunch of newbs regurgitating info on the internet :) My guess is most of those guys only read something somewhere and have no actual real-world experience (must like yourself yet you still make claims regarding which is better).
With more experience you'll learn there is quite a difference between what you read online and reality.
Wow, I can't imagine with all that shit around why forums and the car scene in general are becoming more horseshit.
Matt D.
05-08-2010, 07:42 PM
I discussed this with Kracka not too long ago, but Sport Compact Car did a test between the popular MBCs and EBCs at the time (2004 or 2005?) as to how they handled boost onset (spiking) and how they held boost throughout the RPM range. The MBCs outperformed the EBCs by having the smallest spikes at boost onset and holding boost better to redline. Granted, this was a few years ago, but the general idea between the two devices is entirely the same.
rose0529
05-08-2010, 09:43 PM
Nice work Scheides! Gotta like making more power on a little less boost! Hows having MIVEC treating ya?
mlomker
05-08-2010, 09:46 PM
With more experience you'll learn there is quite a difference between what you read online and reality.
Ah, yes...newbs like Bryan @GST, Chad @CBRD, and other people that know a lot less than the hobbyists on this *forum*. scheides cross-posts much of his stuff on national forums as well.
I discussed this with Kracka not too long ago, but Sport Compact Car did a test between the popular MBCs and EBCs at the time (2004 or 2005?)
If you're talking about standalone EBC then we're talking about different things. An EBCS is a replacement boost control solenoid, controlled by the ECU (aka 3-port). I certainly wouldn't install a standalone on an Evo.
tpunx99GSX
05-08-2010, 09:55 PM
I have used an Apexi AVC-R, Shanes MBC, and a Forge MBC, by far the best one i have used has been Shanes. The AVCR sucked ass in my opinion. EBCS FTL.
Anyways, good shit Scheides keep it coming i expect to see 500 AWHP at dyno day. or you are no longer the site admin and get your post count stricken down to 1.
simulatedwood
05-08-2010, 10:25 PM
Scheides,
Awesome work! MBC, EBC, Boost control, smoosh control, the boost looks excellent what ever it is.
Mine is attached for comparison purposes this is bone stock tune vs RS Motors tune, yours looks great in comparison for the boost spike.
goodhart
05-08-2010, 11:54 PM
Ah, yes...newbs like Bryan @GST, Chad @CBRD, and other people that know a lot less than the hobbyists on this *forum*. scheides cross-posts much of his stuff on national forums as well.
If you're talking about standalone EBC then we're talking about different things. An EBCS is a replacement boost control solenoid, controlled by the ECU (aka 3-port). I certainly wouldn't install a standalone on an Evo.
What he is saying is that all you are doing is regurgitating information that "newbs like Bryan @GST, Chad @CBRD" post online. You have NO real first hand experience yourself.
Anyways, Looking good Scheides! I want a ride in this thing at dyno day, I never did get a ride on your VIII. :(
Kracka
05-09-2010, 12:06 AM
Ah, yes...newbs like Bryan @GST, Chad @CBRD, and other people that know a lot less than the hobbyists on this *forum*. scheides cross-posts much of his stuff on national forums as well.
I am fully aware of what Bryan and Chad have done and do, my guess is I knew who they were long before you decided to even "get into" cars. Goodhart is right, my point is that you have zero first-hand experience and can do nothing more than attempt to understand information you've read online and regurgitate it. I also know that Scheides cross-posts a lot of his stuff on the national forums and if you'll notice I have as well. What's your point? You should also take a look at how similar ECU-controlled boost and any off the shelf pre-packed electronic boost controller is. Here is another question for you: Have you ever actually used a MBC? EBC? ECU-controlled boost? I'm talking actually used, not just drive a car with one. Have you ever installed them? Do you even know how they work?
Kevin 1G Drummer
05-09-2010, 12:16 AM
What is so magical about a X that it needs an EBC?
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