ARP standard vs. OEM 6 bolt

[CarPsyco84]

Heh, or your lucky, or actually installed the ARP's right, seems like alot of guys think that 115 ft lbs of torque on the bolts is gonna help them, there is a point where the bolts start getting weaker again. Well, I tryed tightening the head down to a heavy 95 ft lbs before yanking it, and while I helped the smoking, it still pushed coolant bad, so I pulled the head off... looks like the front and back sides of cyl's 1 and 4 the coating that was on the gasket is gone, probably was leaking there?

So what do you guys think about a composite gasket? I'm not really sold on the MLS ones, seems like many have coolant pushing issues, probably cause everyone else is cheap like me and doesn't want to yank the block to have it machined. I'm aiming for a max of 500hp at DB. Whats the best composite gasket? OEM mitsubishi or a fel-pro 1153?

[goodhart]

Heh, or your lucky, or actually installed the ARP's right, seems like alot of guys think that 115 ft lbs of torque on the bolts is gonna help them, there is a point where the bolts start getting weaker again. Well, I tryed tightening the head down to a heavy 95 ft lbs before yanking it, and while I helped the smoking, it still pushed coolant bad, so I pulled the head off... looks like the front and back sides of cyl's 1 and 4 the coating that was on the gasket is gone, probably was leaking there?

So what do you guys think about a composite gasket? I'm not really sold on the MLS ones, seems like many have coolant pushing issues, probably cause everyone else is cheap like me and doesn't want to yank the block to have it machined. I'm aiming for a max of 500hp at DB. Whats the best composite gasket? OEM mitsubishi or a fel-pro 1153?


If you are stuck on getting a composite, I would vote Mitsu. If you want to do it once and never fuck with it again, A1/L19 and FelPro Permatorque is the only way to go.

[CarPsyco84]

If you are stuck on getting a composite, I would vote Mitsu. If you want to do it once and never fuck with it again, A1/L19 and FelPro Permatorque is the only way to go.

Yeah, but you need to have a flat block and head with a MLS head gasket... which a Permatorque is.... like machined and lapped flat... or I will be back where I am now...

[C3L1CA]

I started pushing coolant when I was making 490ish at DB. Went to L19's with the perma torque and haven't pushed a single drop of coolant. I didn't do anything to the head or block dthat was any different when I was pushing coolant with ARP's and a cometic. Layed a flat edge against the head and said fuck it and put it back together.

[95talonracer]

This just shows how cheap some people are. If you cant afford to build a motor the right way then dont build it at all because in the end you will just complain about the HG blowing coolant or the head studs stretching again. Why go so far and then stop at the point of surfacing a head and block to use a HG that is known to work? A1's and permatorque FTW! Plus like C3L1CA said, you dont need to resurface the head and block for sure. Just check it with a strait edge like he did and it obviously worked for him. BTW nice car and awesome power C3L1CA!

[Goat Blower]

That's pretty much all I ever did as well, sometimes the straightedge was a 2x4.

[1QUICK4]

I started pushing coolant when I was making 490ish at DB. Went to L19's with the perma torque and haven't pushed a single drop of coolant. I didn't do anything to the head or block dthat was any different when I was pushing coolant with ARP's and a cometic. Layed a flat edge against the head and said fuck it and put it back together.

That was a fun night!

[blackrosenova400]

Lol I hope your kidding

That's pretty much all I ever did as well, sometimes the straightedge was a 2x4.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

It's Old Man Hill. He doesn't kid around. haha

[C3L1CA]

That was a fun night!

That reminds me, if you get L19's put two of them in upside down! It's good luck:rollinglaugh: