Roll cage feedback

[Halon]

What exactly do you feel you'll be doing that requires a cage? Depending on the purpose, you might not even want to waste any money on a 6-point.

[Swifty1638]

I've called you that before!! lol jp.

[Constant_Project21]

What exactly do you feel you'll be doing that requires a cage? Depending on the purpose, you might not even want to waste any money on a 6-point.

Drag racing is one, I'm under the impression that you're fine up to the ten mark, with an 8pt cage. I don't think I need an 8 by any means, since I'll be shooting for mid-low 11's, maybe dipping into the high tens.

Also wanted to get out and do some autocrossing. Figure a cage might help stiffen things up, maybe help out a bit.

[DSM_brother2]

im installing a cage, i kno im not going to be in the times needed anytime soon, i just feel safer with it.

[Halon]

Drag racing is one, I'm under the impression that you're fine up to the ten mark, with an 8pt cage. I don't think I need an 8 by any means, since I'll be shooting for mid-low 11's, maybe dipping into the high tens.

Also wanted to get out and do some autocrossing. Figure a cage might help stiffen things up, maybe help out a bit.

You are fine without a cage until you hit 11.49. A 5-pt cage is good to 10.00 or 135mph. With the way DSM's run, it's not the time, it's the MPH you need to watch out for. When you start hitting low 11's, you may find yourself in the 130's. So the 5-pt/6-pt cage is kind of a wash in that aspect because you may still be booted even at low 11's high 10's. If you're going to spend the money on a cage for a DSM for drag purposes, my opinion is skip the 5/6-pt and go straight to the full cage, then you don't have to worry at all. John seemed to know a bit about what all you need to run faster than 135 as far as a cage goes, and he said he would guarantee his work to pass tech. He might be a good resource to tap into before deciding on anything.

Only reason I know what I do, is because I was in your same shoes, looking for a 5/6-pt cage because it was good to 10.00. Then I found myself running 11.0 at 135, and 10,9 at 137. So that 5/6-pt setup would already be no good do to my MPH. So glad I didn't get one. Now, I'm also contemplating a cage, but haven't bit the bullet yet because I hate to do that to what is a 99% street car. Decisions decisions...

[turbotalon1g]

I'll be getting rid of my manual seat belts when I get home, so problem solved don't need fricken cage or $200 or swifty I'm ballin wanna be race car superstar harnesses.

I need some a rust free pass fender. (since we are posting random crap along with helpful posts, or just by themselves)

[slowbubblecar]

For comfort, maybe you want to do swing outs? Not sure if they are ok for the track or not though.

[Halon]

yeah swingouts are allowed. I thought I remember John saying something though about possibly not even needing those side bars. I can't remember and I think I deleted the PM's. Deng it.

EDIT:
found the PM. He said with a 10pt cage, you only need a drivers side bar. So you could leave the passenger side without a bar, and only have a bar on the drivers side, but have that bar completely removable (via pins like a swingout), and leave that bar out all the time and only put it in on track day. That'd probably be your least intrusive option.

So something like this, but that cross beam that goes across the driver side door could be completely removeable, and the cross bar on the passenger side door simply wouldn't exist.
http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/z/cage/10_point.jpg

[slowbubblecar]

^ If it was me, I would do the pass side door as well (likely in a swing out). It would seem kind of weird to only have one door bar.

[Constant_Project21]

The swingout deal sounds a hell of a lot nicer than having to hop into my car.

Turbotalon-not buying a cage so I can have cool seatbelts, haha, just mentioned it would be nice to rid of the auto belts.

Thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming please!