Mitsubishi Going Under?

[JDM]

Ironic. I'd say Mitsu's fall would be due to Chrysler, pre-benz era. The trannies, the moldings, everything else but the motor. I test drove the Stratus R/T, Sebring LXi, and Eclipse GTS, and the GTS sold me because of the better HP rating and quick (relative term) acceleration. In my opinion Chrysler ruined Mitsu in the US, and it's just ironic that they're shackin up in the sack... :goodluck:

[DSM97RS]

Originally posted by JDM@Apr 14 2004, 12:31 AM
Ironic. I'd say Mitsu's fall would be due to Chrysler, pre-benz era. The trannies...
damn those trannies ... HAHAHA

[Kracka]

Originally posted by JDM@Apr 14 2004, 01:31 AM
I test drove the Stratus R/T, Sebring LXi, and Eclipse GTS, and the GTS sold me because of the better HP rating and quick (relative term) acceleration.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Stratus R/T the same as the V-6 Eclipse? I believe they have the same engine, tranny, and chassis with the differences being you can get a convertable Eclipse or a 4-door Stratus.

[Enes]

they have IDENTICAL engines/tranies

the only difference is about 70 to 120 pounds in the chassy and few extra details on the sebring/stratus that eclipses don't have
and eclipses had the spyder unlike Stratus.

The Coupe is the only thing of the stratus or sebring i'm talking about. the 4 door versions had 2.7 chrysler engines, not mitsu.

-E

[Kracka]

Don't blame everything on Chrysler. Mitsu has never been able to build a good transmission...they really should out-source to Honda or something. Other Mitsu cars, like late-90's Gaylants are just huge pieces of shit too. I think they were the best looking sedans in their market, but they were just cheaply built and fell apart.

[MustGoFaster]

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Apr 14 2004, 10:08 AM
Mitsu has never been able to build a good transmission...they really should out-source to Honda or something.
Getrag

[Kracka]

Originally posted by MustGoFaster@Apr 14 2004, 11:21 AM
Getrag
The 3/S guys don't much care for those things either. Seems like the cones in them go out just as often as our synchros do...and they are a lot harder to work on.

[JDM]

The Eclipse GTS has a different intake plenum, different camshafts, 6 disc, 7 speaker 200 Watt stereo, and 10 more horsepower than the Eclipse GT, and 20 more than the Stratus R/T. The Eclipse GTS also has a Timing and Lift Controller called MIVEC (Mitsubishi's Innovative Variable Timing and Lift Electronic Control.) It's VTEC. It also comes in the GS SOHC 4G64. Not exactly identical. Don't know about you guys with your cars, but with intake and a clutch, I ran 15.0@94. Not bad for a 3700 lb N/A pile of japo-american crap. :bounce:


It's like a 3S, without all the cool stuff.

Correct me if I'm wrong on these numbers:

2003 Stratus R/T - 190hp
2004 Stratus R/T - 200hp
Chrysler Sebring LXi - 190 hp
Eclipse GT and Spyder GT - 200
Eclipse GTS and GTS Spyder -210

[JDM]

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Apr 14 2004, 10:08 AM
Don't blame everything on Chrysler. Mitsu has never been able to build a good transmission...they really should out-source to Honda or something. Other Mitsu cars, like late-90's Gaylants are just huge pieces of shit too. I think they were the best looking sedans in their market, but they were just cheaply built and fell apart.
Outsourcing is the way of life these days it seems

The Chevrolet Malibu max and Saturn Vue Redline come with the 3.5 VTEC V6

Saab 9/3 Station wagon is a Subaru Impreza, the rest of the Saab 9/3 turbos are the Chevrolet 2.2 Ecotec Turbo

No one builds an all around great car unless it's hand made, they ACTUALLY think things out and it's not mass production, or costs way too much.

[tpunx99GSX]

the reason they are in the trouble they are in is because when sales sucked in the 3rd gen model they loosened the credit policys and let everyone and their mother get financed and half the owners defaulted on the loans and mitsu was like "oh shit" the dsmers were like "ha ha " i was like "really" this girl i knew was like "yeah..... ok" and my friend brothers ex girlfriends grandma was like "oh dear"........