Swifty

[Halon]

Above the belt man, not on it!

It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt. Sticks and stones might brake bones, but tons pilled on will eventually kill you. Lets try and keep it to every other comment being a shot at Swifty instead of every comment shot being a shot at Swifty.

I've been on the receiving end of continuous (mild) bashing, eventually people can convince you that your are a worthless piece of shit. Lay off.

I think that is the first time I've ever made a jab towards Swifty on here in the how ever many years I've known him. And it was all in fun. C'mon how can you take a picture like that and expect no one to crack a joke at it. I'm pretty sure he knows I have no harsh feelings towards him.

[mlomker]

I've only been on the various Mitsu forums for a few weeks, since the Evo is my first Mitsu. As someone that has been on forums since you needed 2400 bps modems to get to them, I can tell you that I'm surprised by how great the forums have been. Even the national evolutionm.net board is surprisingly friendly.

Hate to say it, but I had a stereotypical image of what "car guys" would be like and I was very wrong. Welcome to 2009, huh?

[FattyBoomBatty]

well, everyone knows that 08 Evo GSR's suck, but besides, that we're really nice.

And as for the attitude about jobs, My response to TheBlizzard was based on my opinion and my reaction to your comment, and the pretty negative vibe I got from it. I am just disappointed by how employers search for, interview, and hire new employees. Maybe it's because they never hired me and I resent them for that, but maybe there is something more to it. I have gotten the distinct impression that guys like me (mid 20's male with a degree in something other than finance, IT, or health care and "no experience") are looked over when looking for what many people might consider a normal job.

I just want to be able to afford my own house and a new car without borrowing a grip of money to do it.

[Halon]

Affording a house by yourself, at this age, is not an easy thing when coming right out of college. I bought my house when I was just about to turn 24, but I had zero college debt (thanks military), and had money saved up as the military is basically a paying full time job, lived with and I happened upon a job with a LOT of travel that payed very well. I lived with my dad for awhile until I had even more money saved up. Then I got a houseNot the nicest house, but a house. And having a roommate makes a huge difference.

Part of me thinks back now, if I would have just stayed with my dad and saved up for a 2 more years (put aside the same amount of money I've been paying on my mortgage/property tax), and man, I'd have somewhere around 1/4 of my house paid off already...

[FattyBoomBatty]

Yeah, I know where I'm at, but I just wish I was further along by now. I guess that's the entitlement dysfunction that's afflicting people like me. haha.

[mlomker]

well, everyone knows that 08 Evo GSR's suck, but besides, that we're really nice.

If I'd done more research I would have gone with a 9. More mods at a better price and the factory warranty is pretty much worthless from what I've read. Que sera.

I have gotten the distinct impression that guys like me (mid 20's male with a degree in something other than finance, IT, or health care and "no experience") are looked over when looking for what many people might consider a normal job.

I work a dead-minimum of 60 hrs/week. Sure, I can post on this forum while "working" but I can't go hang out with friends right now. Why? I'm on call and have a 5-min maximum response time on emails from monitoring systems.

I haven't seen you say anything unreasonable. You just have to put yourself in the position of employers...they aren't going to pay you $1 more than they can hire somebody else at your same level of skill/knowledge for the same job. The number of cheapskates I've seen on the forums is amazing. I'll see you guys offer some dude 50% what he/she paid for a set of rims and not feel an ounce of guilt. You expect employers to do more for you? Dream on.

Why do I spent THOUSANDS of hours doing IT work and studying in my "spare" time? It pays and I can buy pretty much anything I want (I'm single. lol). Most of the whiners that I've met don't work 1/2 as many hours as I do...they didn't go to grad school...they dont' spend their free time studying to make more money.

Is that a "problem?" No, man. I've spent so much time on my career that I'm brain-fried. I spend a lot of time thinking that guys with a better life-balance made the right choice. The problem is that *you* aren't aware that you are doing the right thing. Money isn't "free."

[FattyBoomBatty]

Some might argue that "money isn't everything." And you are in IT, one of the (many) areas I have not had any real experience in. If you are making 80k/year, then I would consider you to be pretty high up on the IT ladder, looking at that ladder from the ground. I am not saying I wouldn't put in the hours, I'm saying people don't even take that in to consideration when looking at resumes. They look at what you wrote down, not what kind of person or worker you are. I think of myself as a hard worker (much harder than many of my friends) and I put my full effort and ability forward when I do any job, but how do employers find that out? Definitely not by looking at a piece of paper. Yet that's how they judge a potential hire. Vicious cycle, I say!

[TheBlizzard]

My comments were coming from my own experiences, things I look for when interviewing and hiring. And Andrew you are right, some of the ways employers hire is pure bullshit, but not all, just like some people with degrees will take a lower paying job in the hopes that they can work their way up and eventually get into the position they want, but not all. Keep working at it, keep a positive attitude, look employers in the eye and be honest when interviewing.

I myself work a ton of hours, and I get burnt out as well, but like Mlomker said, some people are just workaholics and have some drive to exceed even their own expectations, while some people are content to just make it by, both can be happy, but are doing totally different things. Do what makes you happy.

As far as Swifty goes, he posts crazy shit like that all the time on Facebook. It's not a new thing.

[TheBlizzard]

Some might argue that "money isn't everything." And you are in IT, one of the (many) areas I have not had any real experience in. If you are making 80k/year, then I would consider you to be pretty high up on the IT ladder, looking at that ladder from the ground. I am not saying I wouldn't put in the hours, I'm saying people don't even take that in to consideration when looking at resumes. They look at what you wrote down, not what kind of person or worker you are. I think of myself as a hard worker (much harder than many of my friends) and I put my full effort and ability forward when I do any job, but how do employers find that out? Definitely not by looking at a piece of paper. Yet that's how they judge a potential hire. Vicious cycle, I say!

Yeah that is the employers fault then, they should be looking a lot further than a piece of paper. I know first hand what this can do; I have hired people before that have the sickest resumes and background, most of them turn out to the self centered lazy piles of shit, when I went to some seminars and realized that there is a lot more to a person than what they can throw down on paper I started hiring people that not only can do the job, but are dependable, they have a high rate of productivity, and have a positive attitude. Those are the guys/girls I want working for me.

So if you are being overlooked and you have those qualities than in my opinion you don't want to work for them anyway, because in the end you are going to be disappointed. So I say fucke em, keep your head up and keep trying, resumes are only as good as the heart and attitude of the people writing them.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Perhaps that is my problem then, is that I'm not conveying in my resume/c.v./cover letter what I can deliver. I'll just keep working on the whole thing till it goes my way, I guess.