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Speedfreak
03-13-2009, 08:07 PM
Funny how people can see what they want to see. This country/world is pretty F'd up right now. If anyone believes it's going to be a quick fix, open your eyes. What that means is more then one stimulus package or one major group of changes. Also, the gov't and the way it works didn't completely change because someone new is in office. Thus there will always be earmarks and lobbies that are played to. Things can change, but not that fast. And being a "flip flopper" can also be seen as listening to whoever is more knowledgeable about a certain subject and changing your own opinion based on facts. I think it's a good trait to have. No "sides" of the line, just thought out decisions(at the very least, more thought out then we've had for the last 8 years, and for the right reasons.. fixing this place). I'd rather have a hope, then a guaranty of a downward spiral. Let's see how we are(or the direction we are going) by the next election, then everyone can start slinging their politics again.

Halon
03-13-2009, 08:15 PM
New World Order!! Ultimate Warrior/Hulk Hogan 2012

dumb_ricer
03-13-2009, 10:16 PM
And being a "flip flopper" can also be seen as listening to whoever is more knowledgeable about a certain subject and changing your own opinion based on facts. I think it's a good trait to have. No "sides" of the line, just thought out decisions(at the very least, more thought out then we've had for the last 8 years, and for the right reasons.. fixing this place).


I hate it when people hate on someone who "flip flops" on something.

Would you rather have a closed minded idiot in office(not mentioning names), or someone who is willing to take in all sides and make a EDUCATED decision? It has yet to be seen which Obama is. I'm hoping for educated decisions from him, but who knows.'

I voted for him, and I'm going to see what happens with the stimulus package. The way I see it, he couldn't have started off in a worse position.

Either we will continue on the path of destruction that has been going on for however long, or we try something to fix it. It isn't going to fix itself more than likely.

Goat Blower
03-13-2009, 11:50 PM
The only thing I like about Obama is he did flip-flop on pulling the troops out of Iraq as soon as he took office. I'm guessing once he actually found out what's going on, he decided it wasn't quite so smart to just pull out and fall on our sword. But throwing stimulus packages at our economy isn't going to do squat. Bush did it and it brought nothing, Obama quadrupled it and it will still do nothing. Add mountains of new taxes to that and we'll be in this for a long, long time. Hang on to your wallets.

JET
03-14-2009, 12:04 AM
I have liked a few things he has done, others I don't like. He seems to be trying to trim some fat off government spending, but he is spending it in other spots. I didn't vote for him, but this is what we have and I am keeping an open mind. So far he has been slightly better than I expected, that isn't saying a whole lot though.

Kevin 1G Drummer
03-14-2009, 07:35 AM
My god... Another political thread? Really?

mdost03
03-14-2009, 09:17 AM
So, did anyone even watch the video I posted? Lol.

Speedfreak
03-14-2009, 01:54 PM
My god... Another political thread? Really?

Exactly, I thought we were done with them once the election was over. It would be nice to be politics free until the next election. Not much we can do about anything anyways.

So, did anyone even watch the video I posted? Lol.

Nope.

mdost03
03-14-2009, 03:27 PM
My god... Another political thread? Really?

Exactly, I thought we were done with them once the election was over. It would be nice to be politics free until the next election. Not much we can do about anything anyways.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/totaleclipse_05/Random/parkinglot.jpg

If you don't want to read the thread, you guys can skip it, nobody is forcing you to read/watch :p

Ihearrtdsm
03-14-2009, 03:42 PM
it was pretty good, too long for my taste.