Obama's going to make us put our catalytic converters back in...

[Kracka]

I like to eat things that taste good.

[311evo]

I like to eat things that taste good.
x2 lol.

political threads are always heated here.

[xveganxcowboyx]

Me too, but you can't have your cake and eat it too (ummm, no pun intended). If a society cannot regulate itself someone will step up to do it for them. You cannot refuse to do anything yourself, but then whine when someone else does it for you.

As for big environmental choices there are really three main areas you can have a substantial effect. Home: Go all custom super green energy efficient building hippie style. Car: Ditch it for a bike or public transportation or most substantially Diet: Stop eating meat.

Of course someone who likes all of those things may choose to make more moderate changes within all three. Eat less meat, increase efficiency in the home, and drive less or use a fuel efficient vehicle.

[95talonracer]

Are you kidding? Prisoners of war, especially high-positioned figures in Al Qaeda do not get tried in the American judicial system. They are not US citizens, they are the enemy that planned the deaths of 3000 Americans. This has always been this way for good reason. In most countries on earth, a war prisoner is tortured or killed, here we give them three squares a day and a few drips of water on the face.

Of course the world is happy we're closing Gitmo, especially Al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah, nobody else would really care because it has nothing to do with them. Funny how quickly we forget what happened 7.5 years ago, but I think Biden is right, that will change soon. We're sending the world a message that we'll gladly fall on our sword, and we're ready to lower our defenses. It won't be good.
I was being sarcastic.

[FattyBoomBatty]

I didn't read any of this thread except for the beginning lines of the first three posts. I didn't read them because I already know what you facists wrote, "OMG Obama is a socialist, he's going to ruin the country!" Well, let me 'splain why I feel you are wrong. By increasing efficiency standards, CAFE(!!!!, not Obama) will make 'merican car companies more competitive worldwide, where everyone else likes less pollution. I don't know why you guys like pollution so much.

Are you guys really worried that increasing the average fuel economy of the national fleet of automobiles will really affect your sports car? I highly doubt it. Just remember, any changes would only affect the average, and it will not affect your evos or m3s or what have you.

He also won't take away your guns. Being paranoid never helped a conversation.

[tpunx99GSX]

You guys really need to stop listening to those conservative ass holes such as Rush "I like Pills" Limbaugh on public radio. Something like 12 prisoners have actually been tried at gitmo. 12!!!!!!! Are you freakin kidding me? We sit there and torture innocent people into basically telling us lies to stop the torture. Its fucking retarded. Complete waste of money and in the world view makes us look like hitlers germany with the concentration camps. That would have been the next step for bush. refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_v._Rumsfeld and you will see.

[john]

I think they should bring back emissions in MN. Most people on here would be paying fines and making required repairs which would help boost our economy ;)

It is also nice sitting behind an old dsm smelling the fumes as they have removed the cat and the valve seals are leaking.

Guess you all can just sit and wait for Palin 2012!

[FattyBoomBatty]

Palin - no thanks. Pretty sure 90% of the people here don't care to hear from that dumbass again.

[FattyBoomBatty]

It doesn't matter what Obama continues to fuck up, all the liberals will just turn a blind eye and continue blaming Bush for all their problems. This country has some serious issues right now and rather than fix them Obama sits on his BarackBerry worrying about pointless crap that will just bleed even more money from the states/country/companies/taxpayers.

Not to try and start a new argument, but other than your opinion about how Obama treated the guantanamo bay thing, what do you have as proof that he has done anything wrong so far? You are so sure that he has messed everything up, but he's following through on what he said he would do. That is honorable. Bush couldn't do that; so far Obama is.

And you must not watch a whole lot of news if you think he's on his phone all day. The guy probably gets about 5 hours of sleep a night.

[1QUICK4]

As opposed to Bush who claims to have inherited 9/11, the first AND second Recession,

We're still in the 1st recession dude. Obama will do the same thing Bush did, bandaid fixits, Be it stimulis or other measures. all it does is prolong the inevitable. Our economy needs to bottom out.

We need to clone Regan to get us out of this hole ;)