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GREASEMONKEY
01-12-2009, 01:17 AM
Just recently (Sat) I traded the blue Auto GSX for a 91 Talon TSi, He needed a car that he could drive..

I ended up meeting him at his house earlier that day so we could check out each others cars. He drove mine around a couple blocks and when he got on to a main road asked me if he could rip on it.. I said sure but if we get pulled over its his ticket. We end up getting back to his house and he said he liked it i explained what it needed and what was good and he seemed set on it. I drive his around a couple blocks and get back to his house and he said he would call me on tuesday. He calls me a couple hours later and asked me if i wanted to do it that night and said yea.

So he limped the talon over to my house where we swap wheels and the steering wheel and do the paperwork. He didnt have the title yet and i was fine with that so i typed up some bills of sale and told him that when he gets his title we will just swap.

He ends up calling me today and tells me that the tranny is shot. Wont go into any gear and doesnt know why, He said that he drove it "Normally" and only about 10 miles...

Now heres the thing, I,ve put a little over 1300 miles on that car in the 2 months i owned it and never had any tranny issues. Never slipped, Never any funny noises, shifted nice and strong!

So basically what he wants is to trade cars back and he is saying that he'll do anything. I dont need a broken car, When it left my driveway it ran and drove fine and how am i supposta believe him when i was with him and he beat on it.

Im pretty frustrated over the situation, But what would you guys do?

I have a signed bill of sale and a copy of the title when he transfered it into his name. I still have my title for the GSX and id assume he would want that even if the car is now broken.

-Stephan

tpunx99GSX
01-12-2009, 01:46 AM
YOu have a signed bill of sale. Too bad for him. Sold as is. Just say no. The car was running fine when it left and you accepted it as is. Sucks but its a dsm. Im sure there are some stories around here of a car having a problem on the drive home. Shit happens.
But when he says he wants to rip on it on the test drive that should be enough evidence of the trauma it has been through since the sale.
If he wants to go to court for it, do it, bill of sale means its sold.

Constant_Project21
01-12-2009, 02:43 AM
I agree. Similar thing happened to me when I sold my laser. Guy came to get it (I didnt have a title, was being overnighted to me) and we both signed a bill of sale. Only reason I couldnt wait a day, was because I was coming home that weekend to buy my other car and needed the money. The laser ran good, the turbo was crap (told him that) and I had the boost low so I could save up and buy a new one. I guess the guy cranked the mbc before he left drove it 2 blocks and called me cause it was smoking bad. Turbo blew up, shot oil all the way down the exhaust, and the guy was pissed at me. I ended up grabbing a turbo from my buddy and swapping it out for him. It sucks when crap like this happens, made me feel bad, cant imagine being in your shoes. But the other guy is s.o.l. Maybe he will learn to be nice to dsm's, they bite back...haha.

GREASEMONKEY
01-12-2009, 03:13 AM
YOu have a signed bill of sale. Too bad for him. Sold as is. Just say no. The car was running fine when it left and you accepted it as is. Sucks but its a dsm. Im sure there are some stories around here of a car having a problem on the drive home. Shit happens.
But when he says he wants to rip on it on the test drive that should be enough evidence of the trauma it has been through since the sale.
If he wants to go to court for it, do it, bill of sale means its sold.


Exactly. And im not worried about him bringing me to court, If anything i will be bringing him to court unless he gives me the title. I have AS-IS written in the bill of sale as well.

I do feel kind of bad but i don't think im in the wrong.



I agree. Similar thing happened to me when I sold my laser. Guy came to get it (I didnt have a title, was being overnighted to me) and we both signed a bill of sale. Only reason I couldnt wait a day, was because I was coming home that weekend to buy my other car and needed the money. The laser ran good, the turbo was crap (told him that) and I had the boost low so I could save up and buy a new one. I guess the guy cranked the mbc before he left drove it 2 blocks and called me cause it was smoking bad. Turbo blew up, shot oil all the way down the exhaust, and the guy was pissed at me. I ended up grabbing a turbo from my buddy and swapping it out for him. It sucks when crap like this happens, made me feel bad, cant imagine being in your shoes. But the other guy is s.o.l. Maybe he will learn to be nice to dsm's, they bite back...haha.

Yep if you beat on them be prepared to fix something, When i was with him we stopped at a light he put it down into first and ripped it to 6500 let off putting it into second and then smashed it again while the tranny was shifting between gears!?!?!?! I didnt say anything at the time but he has to know im gonna bring that up.

TheBlizzard
01-12-2009, 06:30 AM
I wouldn't worry about it; especially with these cars, who the hell knows what he did when he left. He could have been brake boosting the shit out of it and destroyed the end clutches or something. If he were lucky maybe the TCU went out on it but who knows.

Next time you talk to him ask him if he would have done the same thing if you would have broken a shift fork after the deal was final. If it was something that might have been overlooked by you that he should have known before hand then I would say help him out otherwise no way.

scheides
01-12-2009, 08:32 AM
Sucks, but buyer beware.

The one you got will probably throw a rod or something soon enough, I would not trade back.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
01-12-2009, 08:53 AM
Nope. Deny his ass.

A//// Guy
01-12-2009, 09:17 AM
That sucks but im with everyone else. Hopefully you can get the title for his car without too much trouble.

I would never actually trade the cars till the title is in his hands and ready to sign over. Too many bad things can happen if you let the other person hold on to the title, etc.

asshanson
01-12-2009, 10:28 AM
When I sold my black gsx a coolant hose broke in the first 30 miles, I helped the guy diagnose and fix it but I'm sure it's not because he was ripping on it. In this case, given his test drive, I wouldn't do much to help him out. Maybe help him diagnose what exactly broke, but that's it.

Febo
01-12-2009, 12:23 PM
Yeah, with that kind of test drive I can only imagine its his fault he blew the auto. From what Ive learned about them, they arent the best in the world for doing that kind of crap. Sucks to be that dude.