Valve spring work-around.

[JET]

It is likely that the keeper would get stuck in one of the passages and block the oil flow at least partially. Also remember that the oil still has parts to go through before reaching the oil pan, the filter is the first thing after the pump. It won't get filtered until the next time around.

[iceminion]

It is likely that the keeper would get stuck in one of the passages and block the oil flow at least partially.
-Although I agree that dropping one of those things down the oil drain would not be ideal, i disagree, the oil returns are huge, you could drop a dime down there, a keeper would not get stuck

Also remember that the oil still has parts to go through before reaching the oil pan,
Uh, dont want to sound better then you or anything, but any free floating oil in the head drains straight down under 0PSI of pressure to the oil pan, after the oil is used in the cams/lifters it is done.

the filter is the first thing after the pump.

No, not exactly, from the oil pan, there is the pickup tube, which has a screen, keepers are huge in comparason to the screen, it would never make it into the oil pump

It won't get filtered until the next time around.
actually, oil gets filtered every time around


Jet - im not trying to be a dick here, you know how long I have been working on dsms, I have been battling against automotive superstition my whole automotive career, so facts are very important to me. sorry if I picked your whole post apart, but comon man!

[95talonracer]

actually, oil gets filtered every time around

Not all the oil gets filtered 100% of the time the motor is running.

[JET]

-Although I agree that dropping one of those things down the oil drain would not be ideal, i disagree, the oil returns are huge, you could drop a dime down there, a keeper would not get stuck

Have you actually looked down the oil passages? I have seen imperfections closing them 1/2 off before.


Uh, dont want to sound better then you or anything, but any free floating oil in the head drains straight down under 0PSI of pressure to the oil pan, after the oil is used in the cams/lifters it is done.


The post I was replying to was not specifically about the head, you said "I don't understand why everyone equates anything in your oil with a ruined motor...."



No, not exactly, from the oil pan, there is the pickup tube, which has a screen, keepers are huge in comparason to the screen, it would never make it into the oil pump


actually, oil gets filtered every time around


Not if the contamination happens after the filter, it will go through the engine once.


Jet - im not trying to be a dick here, you know how long I have been working on dsms, I have been battling against automotive superstition my whole automotive career, so facts are very important to me. sorry if I picked your whole post apart, but comon man!

Next time actually read what I write.

You have been going against conventional thinking, not superstition. Some good, some bad. I always tried to help you with your ideas if they have merit, even when others are bashing you.

[Pushit2.0]

There would be no way for the keeper to make its way into the oiling system unless there was no screen on the oil pickup tube. Also the oil filter does not filter all the time, if the pressure differential is to high it bypasses the filter, normally with cold oil or high RPM, which results in high oil pressure. MustGoFaster can chime in on this if he wants.
All you need is a rag to avoid any possible issues. Also here is a filter that does not bypass at all:
http://www.buickgn.com/oilfilters.htm

~John