T3 vs. Mitsu housing

[sleepydsm]

oops.

[jrohner]

I've been looking into upgrading to a Holset. This is about all I've been reading about online lately. From what I've found, full boost (hx35) is around 3500 rpms and capable of 500awhp all with the DSM bolt-on housing. 52 lbs/min for the hx35, and 2-3 less for the h1c. 60 something for the hx40 (I don't want anything that big so haven't cared about the exact number) -- 650hp so probably 65+ lbs/min and with full boost by low to mid 4 grand. Pretty awesome spool vs hp I would say. I'm probably throwing an h1c on my car.

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

From what I've found, full boost (hx35) is around 3500 rpms and capable of 500awhp all with the DSM bolt-on housing.


How much "full boost" at 3500? Maybe 20 psi on a 2.4L and a HX35, but I highly doubt 30 psi by 3500 on a typical 2.0L or any boost level that would make 500awhp. I'd like to see these dyno charts. I think the honda-tech disease is spreading to the dsm world. (I made 600whp on my gt35r and 10 psi and full boost by 2000rpms!)

[jrohner]

How much "full boost" at 3500? Maybe 20 psi on a 2.4L and a HX35, but I highly doubt 30 psi by 3500 on a typical 2.0L or any boost level that would make 500awhp. I'd like to see these dyno charts. I think the honda-tech disease is spreading to the dsm world. (I made 600whp on my gt35r and 10 psi and full boost by 2000rpms!)

Then go look for them if you actually care. Look up something before you go slamming it.

If you run a bigger t3 housing it will take over 4 grand to spool on a 2.0. People have said the hx35 starts making boost sooner than a 16g so it's not quite as hard of a hit. It would be lame if it took a 2.4 to build boost by 3500, that would probably be worse than a 50 trim not better.

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Then go look for them if you actually care. Look up something before you go slamming it.

Nope, I don't care. Nor do I care for a HX35 or the bullseye housing for it. It's too small of a turbo anyways.

Saying it gets "full boost" and putting that it makes 500whp in the same sentence makes it sound like if you are gonna run the 30 psi it'll take to make that power, that it'd make it by 3500 is all I'm saying, and we know that's probably not the case like how Honda-tech'ers always forget to say that their boost crept up to 15 psi to make that 500whp.

If you have the opportunity/finances Aaron, get a T3 housing unless you're gonna get some FP housing. Just my opinion.

[jrohner]

Nope, I don't care. Nor do I care for a HX35 or it's bullseye housing. It's too small anyways.

...and we know that's probably not the case...

Posting about something you don't care about and don't know about. Always a good combination.

So you're speaking for everyone now. OK.

The poster is interested in the HX35 and 50 trims, yet you're saying an HX35 is too small? For who? This thread was started by "turbotalon1g", why don't you keep it about what he wants. My 16G broke 400 hp so how is a turbo that's rated for 12 lbs/min higher too small?

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Don't post if you don't care and don't know. Read about it so you know what you are talking about. You sound like one who has a huge turbo and doesn't break 400 hp.

So you're speaking for everyone now. OK.

Don't know? Yep, that's just it. All I can say is welcome to 5 years ago.

[JET]

Posting about something you don't care about and don't know about. Always a good combination.

So you're speaking for everyone now. OK.

Well, he made over 600 whp on his DSM. You are the one that made the statement, you should have the information to back it up. It sounds like you are talking about boost threshold and not full boost. In your research you must have run across a dyno chart to back that up, just post a link to prove your point.

[jrohner]

Making 600 hp doesn't mean he knows about a turbo he doesn't run. I'd like to see his torque and rpm range.

[jrohner]

Well, he made over 600 whp on his DSM. You are the one that made the statement, you should have the information to back it up. It sounds like you are talking about boost threshold and not full boost. In your research you must have run across a dyno chart to back that up, just post a link to prove your point.

I don't see how you can go by a dyno chart to tell you where full boost is. I make full boost by 2800 on my car, a hair over 3000 in 3rd gear, yet the dyno chart shows it at like 3800 and peak torque at 4200, both on the DD and Dynojet. The load is far different on a dyno than the street where it matters. The main chart I've seen on the HX35 had peak torque at 5 grand and made about 500 hp at about 7 grand at 25psi. It doesn't tell you where it makes full boost on the street, you have to go by what people say -- which is what I'm doing. This other guy is just saying 'I don't care what anyone says it's not possible' basically. Have you had one on your car or ridden with someone to really say it's not possible?

Besides, tune means a lot too, I can change my spool 400 rpms easy just using a different timing map. I was making full boost at 3200 and then I changed my timing and now I'm at 27-2800. It doesn't make a big difference what psi I'm running either, rpm is very close to the same.