People are IDIOTS! - E85

[Goat Blower]

Different turbos so the comparisons aren't apples to apples, but I used to run 21psi on the street with 92 octane max making about 350whp and now run 30psi daily and make 582 at 32psi on E85, no knock. The horsepower comparisons are no good, but the boost level is.

[4g63tcrazy]

Yeah I saw your dyno sheet on the dyno thread. Pretty damn impressive! My friend will be paypaling you tonight for the pipe. I'll shoot you a pm when he does.

Here's a good link on a corvette using E85 with good results:
http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_0801_corvette_e85_conversion/dyno_test_results.html

[asshanson]

Same here, I used to run at 20psi on pump making ~250whp, now running 28psi and making about 400whp on the same dyno.

[4g63tcrazy]

Those are pretty much the same results I had with the same psi. Although I'm not quite at the 400 mark.

Another link on the evo forums:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=360346

[scheides]

LOL this pretty much says it all:

http://images.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_0801_01_z+2005_chevrolet_corvette+e85_convers ion.jpg

[4g63tcrazy]

HAHA. Now if I show some of these kids this thread there gonna think you actually put a cob of corn in the damn tank.. Thanks ass! lol

[SnoEclipse]

Then there is the greater quenstion on whether or not E85 requires more 'input' (farm fuel, fertilizer, processing, etc) than it returns in 'savings' at the pump.

The (very simple) math says no. There isn't a lot in this world that has a higher energy density than refined crude oil fuels.

[dumb_ricer]

So recently I have been attending UTI in IL and the discussion of E85 has come up a couple of times and these instructors and kids are all fucking idiots. Everybody says "this or that" about it cause that is what they've heard but nobody has any solid facts. Me and my friend have repeatedly told them that you dont have to change out your WHOLE fuel system with these "special" fuel pumps that cost 1million dollars and "special" injectors with "special" seals.. We've told them countless times that you only need to change your injectors and pump to provide more fuel and you will also need a new fuel filter cause E85 will clean out your tank. And of course the editional tuning to provide the extra 30%.

What I need from you guys is ANY hard facts of long term use, dyno proven graph's for more power or anything you guys can come up with of HARD evidence that you dont need all this shit.

Hell, I even told my instructor about how I was able to up my boost and make more power with E85 and he said, "Well once you put it on a dyno and prove it let me know." And of course I have dyno'd my car and have made close to 100hp more to the wheels with it and trap 16mph higher. After I told him that he said that I should be teaching the class... All these kids just stare at me like I'm crazy whenever I talk about it EVEN WITH THE DSM GUYS at the school..

So help me and my friend out and give us some hard evidence!!!

It isn't worth arguing with the instructors at UTI 99 percent of the time. Been there, done that.

[Halon]

I gained about 80hp just by switching with my old 50 trim setup. Was making 280hp at ~20psi on pump, knocking like crazy. Switched to E85 and made 366 at ~25psi with NO knock. Both done at LSE. My dyno graphs are on here if you search.

Like Scheides said, dumping it in won't net you all this power. You must change your tune accordingly to take advantage of it, and that is when you will see the power gains.

[JET]

On the same setup I made 358awhp on pump at 21psi and I made 452 awhp at 28psi on E85.