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asshanson
07-01-2008, 12:07 PM
1,250 kg and 24,700 euro = 2,750 lbs and maybe 60k USD
I can definitely see the advantages of having this over a DSM.

And a loophole in magnetism? Like there's a bug in physics which they're exploiting?

iceminion
07-01-2008, 12:29 PM
ask god why this works, not me. here is another company http://www.lutec.com.au/

slowboy, technology to application isnt always as clear cut as we would like it, but the proof of concept devices work, this does not automatically mean that you can go to menards and buy a consumer level product, yet.

oh, and a 1,250kg electric generator unit you are referencing is a heavy industrial power generating unit, there will be lighter ones in cars.

I am not here to explain how this works, there are pleanty of videos online which do, like this one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4NDrPQ2rA&feature=related

knowledge is power, and it sure seems to me like this is the real deal, pass it around, so far nobody has been able to PROVE that this does not work, and that is how the scientific method works

merkzu
07-01-2008, 12:39 PM
I bet it works for a while and eventually they demagnetize.. and I'd guess that you probably get a lot less energy out of it than went in to making the magnets. Would be fun to make tho and see how long it goes

iceminion
07-01-2008, 01:00 PM
neodymium retains its magnetism for 400 years. even if a generator built of these lasted 5 or 10 years it would be well worth our time.

MustGoFaster
07-01-2008, 01:02 PM
A page about the motor says that the motor works "by focusing the magnetic field, the angles of the magnets and a special method of shielding." Also, "the motor does not require external power to start up." Brady reports that tests run have shown no diminution of magnet strength over period of motor operation, which was two months in one instance.

As the stators become engaged, the three rotors with off-set magnet alignment begin to spin. The speed is controlled by a governor. Without the speed control, the device would accelerate to destruction.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/06/30/6900029PerendevPowerMagneticMotor/

Well, lets' just hope this really works. Would be nice, just set one up in your garage and run forever.

merkzu
07-01-2008, 01:14 PM
neodymium retains its magnetism for 400 years. even if a generator built of these lasted 5 or 10 years it would be well worth our time.

It's using the opposing force (like trying to push two magnets together) to spin the motor right? Even "permanent" neodymium magnets demagnetize when they are held in an opposing magnetic field.

Build one tho and see how long it goes with a little bit of load on it, then post it up

scheides
07-01-2008, 02:25 PM
Freaking sweet!

Unfortunately, magnets are expensive, and supply/demand will blow the price of them through the roof.

Yes, they will probably demagnetize, but it I'm sure they'd be worth it to build.

Still, it needs to work in the real world, widespread, etc. It's probably going to cost us a lot is some other resource to produce the magnets or some part of the assembly, just like E85. Still, cool.

tpunx99GSX
07-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Thats pretty interesting. But when the guy started the machine up it sounded like a combustion motor starting.

gofastman
07-01-2008, 05:54 PM
how about we just plug an extension cord back into itself, you would need some sort of resistor pack capable of dissipating billions of watts of power to control the reaction however.
2nd law of thermodynamics > this

iceminion
07-01-2008, 09:24 PM
how about we just plug an extension cord back into itself, you would need some sort of resistor pack capable of dissipating billions of watts of power to control the reaction however.
2nd law of thermodynamics > this

quick to criticize, not enough time to view the links, thanks for the useful comment