Do not idle for more than 3 minutes or else..

[merkzu]

We should just pass laws banning all pollution and wasted energy.

[brando]

How about getting all truckstops setup with the proper equipment so the truckers don't have to leave their engines idling for hours/overnight?

you try getting a 75 peterbuilt to start in the dead of winter. usually they will only leave them idling for that long because they are in winter and that shit dont like to start and it gets cold. yes idleair is nice but sometimes its just as cost effective to leave it idle

[Kracka]

Ok, so let the truckers idle their engines during December and January, or anytime it dips below a certain temp. Its not the private passenger cars doing the majority of the idling; its the taxis, cops, buses, and trucks.

[bertrenolds5]

I agree cowboy, round abouts do make more sense. But how much gas do you waste making a complete circle at every intersection?
Merkzu I think is onto something, let's just make all pollution illegal that way no one can do anything without breaking the law. We will become a nation of inmates.
I thought they had a new technology that allowed diesel trucks to not idle durning the winter, don't you really just need a diesel tank heater to keep the diesel from freezing?

[Kracka]

I agree cowboy, round abouts do make more sense. But how much gas do you waste making a complete circle at every intersection?
Less gas than sitting and idling for a few minutes then having to accelerate back up to speed.

[FattyBoomBatty]

I just skipped over most of this thread. What should have happened in the first place is an electric motor that assists the engine when you come to a stop. This is how: your engine shuts off if your foot is off the gas pedal for 10seconds. Then when you want to go again, the electric motor spins up the gas engine. so simple. Could have been done decades ago. would have saved millions of gallons. All they need to do is implement this for every single production car by 2010, since they are already in the 2009 run.

[xveganxcowboyx]

It's called a starter. :wink:

[sleepydsm]

It's called a starter. :wink:


hahahaha

[bertrenolds5]

You are right fatty, that is basically what they are doing now with hybrids. Now they just need to perfect the rechargeable battery and I believe they are well on their way.

Save the childern in africa, don't leave your car idling!

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

I just skipped over most of this thread. What should have happened in the first place is an electric motor that assists the engine when you come to a stop. This is how: your engine shuts off if your foot is off the gas pedal for 10seconds. Then when you want to go again, the electric motor spins up the gas engine. so simple. Could have been done decades ago. would have saved millions of gallons. All they need to do is implement this for every single production car by 2010, since they are already in the 2009 run.

They kinda do this in a hybrid already. Everything is electric so you don't need the engine running to control your power steering, brakes, etc. And when you get to 15mph, the IC engine fires and off ya go, but you wouldn't need a separate motor to "spin up" the IC engine, that's why they have starters, which does that. It's just so fucking expensive to put in nearly 100% of cars today, it wouldn't be cost effective to stay in business. One of my instructors here at school, who worked for Toyota for 20 years and was a Prius Tech, said that the government gives Toyota America like $60,000 for each Prius they sell. So in reality, if the government and shit wasn't all about saving the environment too, a hybrid would cost like $80,000+!!! Kinda off topic I guess...

And plus, a lot of companies are now implementing technology that makes the engines (with the exceptions of 4 cyls for now) run on half the cylinders under cerrtain condtions, so there's a pollution control. (new honda v6 and GM v8s in trucks and the corvette) Plus, wouldn't constantly shutting off and starting an engine be hell on it? I know the hybrids do this, but they run 1 liter engines, which aren't big and heavy enough to really have a lot of weight or mass to be taking that abuse. That's something else to think about.